FAO Teachers: what are your naughty names?

[emeraldbell]

following on from my last thread where a couple of teachers agreed that Lewis was a naughty name, well, the child with the name Lewis is usually naughty, you know what I mean?

So there must be other names that fall in to the same bracket. When a teacher sees a list of new students names and thinks 'that one'll be good and that one'll be a nightmare!'

So teachers list your good and bad names, please!

(And any one else that wants to have a go)

[GossipMonger]

ATM it would be Brandon(inc Brendon, Bradley) and Kyle.

I have never known a 'good' Kyle.

Bit sad to label them though as I am sure there are some lovely ones esp on Mumsnet!!

[Flightattendant]

What I'm wondering, is whether in teachers' experience there is a correlation between children whose parents describe them as 'naughty' and the ones who actually are.

For instance I might say 'don't be naughty' occasionally in passing to my 6yo...but I would never say to his teacher or some other parent 'ds has been really naughty today' because it's not a word I really like to label a child with.

I wonder if kids who hear it about themselves, kind of adapt to fit the behaviour as it were.

[Flightattendant]

Sorry to post and run btw. I have to go and put little 'fucking-John' to bed.

[Flightattendant]

sorry couldnae resist

[usualsuspect]

What a horrible thread this is ...

[MrsChemist]

My brother's name is mentioned here.

He was naughty

He's a good man now though.

[Flightattendant]

Lots of kids who are labelled 'naughty' grow up to be brilliant.

It only means they aren't classed as ideal 'pupils' for the school system...such as it is...at the age of maybe 5 or 6. It's worth cobblers really in the scheme of things.

[Fruitbatlings]

Oh dear, I have a Jack and a Charlie.....

[TheFallenMadonna]

There are no naughty names. There just aren't. My biggest worry when looking at a new set list is working out whether I can pronounce the names, and knowing whether Charlie and Sam are girls or boys. That's it really. I have taught a couple of children whose names have made me do a double take, but usually because they are really unusual rather than 'naughty'.

Teachers who are saying that there are 'naughty' names are just remembering childrne of that name who were naughty. They won;t assume a child of the same name will be naughty - because that would be daft.

[ZephirineDrouhin]

lol at Janet and fucking John

[CheerfulYank]

Mattew, Matthew, a thousand times Matthew. EVERY SINGLE ONE I've known has been naughty as can be, and that includes my dear older brother. I'm sure there are some very lovely Matthews out there though!

The naughtiest I've ever known were Alex, Aspen, and Corbin. (These are just individual children though.) They have ruined the names for me, though I'd never name a kid Aspen or Corbin anyway. DH wanted Alexander for DS though and I gave him a firm no.

[paisleyleaf]

My DD's name has been mentioned here.
It's funny as a midwife I saw said 'oh, that's a naught name' too.....I hadn't thought it was.
Obviously it must be then.

[SE13Mummy]

I would steer clear of Janet and John as many of the most troublesome children I've taught have had names beginning with J...

Apart from J's the group of names that stand out for me as representing hard to teach children are those ending in 'ell/e' e.g. Tyrell, Dyrell, Isabelle, Mitchell, Chanelle, Ryell. I've yet to look down a class list and use their names to decide that a particular child will be a nightmare!

There are names I've avoided using because they remind me of a particular pupil and the same is true for my DH who is also a teacher. I'm sure this isn't exclusive to teachers though, other people are bound to have written off names because of the people they associate with them!

[glinda]

I am another who feels very uncomfortable reading this thread. Do some of you really judge a child from a name on a class list?

If we expect children to be naughty they, generally won't disappoint us. This kind of theory tends to become a self fulfilling prophecy.Children who are perceived to have naughty names will often live up to the low expectations you have of them.

[cupofteaplease]

this is just based on my own personal experience, Im not saying every child with these names will be naughty of course...

Isabelle
Imogen
Jessica
Olivia
Becky

Elliot
Ellis
Jude- although it pains me as I love this name!
George
Luke
Zak

[SE13Mummy]

In the other thread the OP mentioned those teachers that responded invariably said that they had encountered naughty/challenging children named Lewis and that would be the reason they wouldn't use it/recommend it. That's quite different from teachers judging children on a class list from their names.

[shockers]

Our most challenging children are Jasmine and Connor but there are 2 Christians (name not religion!) in other classes who are known to cause a bit of a stir from time to time.

SE13Mummy... my sons both have J names and daughter would have had if we had been able to name her... she had to make do with a J middle name instead.... wonder if you've taught any of mine?

[SE13Mummy]

shockers... only if they go to school in SE13!

[mum2all]

Oh yes glinda, if they've got a 'naughty' name we cast them to the farthest corners of the class as soon as they come through the door and banish them there till the end of the year

I think a few people are taking this too seriously - there are patterns of children's names who are 'naughty' or high spirited and these are often the most challenging (and fun) to teach. You can't really generalise based on a name I've had several Jamies who were a complete nightmare but have a Jamie this year who is an absolute sweetheart. It's a running joke when you get your class lists and throw your eyes heavenwards at aaaagh another Connor and a Teigan.

[spongebrainbigpants]

I think some people are taking this thread a teeny weeny bit too seriously .

(And yes, my son's name is on here - and my husband's!)

[spongebrainbigpants]

Lol, x-posted with mum2all!

[shockers]

Our challenging Connor is also a little sweetheart who loves a hug

Mini-shockers are off the hook then!

[mum2all]

I must admit to being a sucker for a loveable rogue regardless of his name

[clemette]

The Op asked "what were the names of the naughtiest children you have taught". The teachers have answered. Not sure how that is perceived as pre-judging class lists??

For what it is worth, the naughtiest child I ever taught was called Saul. He was the last of four brothers and the older ones were wonderful kids. Saul had huge behavioural problems. I learnt my lesson that day not to base my expectations of a child on their surname. Invariably with big families you get disruptive ones and lovely ones, but that is by the by...