Tyler for boy

[babynelly2010]

What does everyone think of it?
I like the name but never met anyone with it.

[DancesWithWoolEnPointe]

I'm with Mrs DV - why is it not socially acceptable to make assumptions about someone based on their race but is socially acceptable to make assumptions based on their name? What is the difference? Are we really being obtuse or are those of you that genuinely judge people based on their name in need of a rethink?

I don't think it is socially acceptable, and think anyone who does it should be prepared to be challenged. Personal preference in name is absolutely fine, but judgement based on name is abhorrent.

[blueshoes]

You cannot choose your race. You can choose your child's name.

[RoastedCouchPotatoes]

I'm with Dances - even putting aside my own personal opinion (fwiw, I like it, but I usually go for more classical names) it's wrong to judge. If you like a name, go for it. The onus shouldn't be on the parent to stop others judging, it should be on the person judging to stop judging. Tyler can be a high court judge, a nuclear physicist, a banker, a plumber or unemployed. A name alone doesn't decide your future, and giving a name a personality can't work. I have a niece called KynleeMae. I wouldn't choose that name at all, but that doesn't mean she should be judged on it. Whether she achieves or not, becomes a scientist or a hairdresser or anything, her name SHOULD have no impact whatsoever, it's only people who judge that can restrict her.

[TantrumsAndBalloons]

Ill just let my ds1 know that there's no point taking his GCSE, or A levels or degree then, as he clearly won't have a choice of occupations due to his name.

I have never read such bullshit in my life.

He can't be a doctor or a high court judge because his name is Tyler? Is this for real?

[DancesWithWoolEnPointe]

Blue You realise that your comment now implies that not only does one's name possibly make one superior to another, but so does race, it is just that one is within your control, the other is outside of it?

People should be judged on their actions and behaviour - nothing more, nothing else. To encourage a person to avoid a name based on social snobbery is very 1930s and I for one thought society was a little more advanced than that.

OP - call you kid Tyler is you like it. It is a perfectly nice name.

[blueshoes]

Dances, there is no such implication. I am not saying it is socially acceptable to discriminate on race or name. I am afraid it is what some other people do, like it or not.

[blueshoes]

BTW, as far as I can see, the objections on this thread to Tyler are its association to social class. The only person drawing the connection with race is MrsDV. I don't agree it is a racial discrimination thing.

[DancesWithWoolEnPointe]

I don't think Tyler is a racial thing - I am saying I see no difference to judging someone on their name and judging someone on their race. Yet some people here seem to think the former is socially acceptable.

[Alisvolatpropiis]

I've never seen a baby names thread kick off like this before

[Badvoc]

The only Tyler I know is a girl.

[Alisvolatpropiis]

I can see that re outrageous criticism.

It's a bit sad really. People do seen to take a perverse joy in being well...rude. Names like Tyler "chav", names like Persphone "try hard and up yourself".

It's easy enough to say, I'm not a fan/I don't like the sound etc.. There's no need for brutal "honesty".

[TantrumsAndBalloons]

It is discrimination and it is no different IMHO to someone judging my ds1 because he is mixed race.

But it's ok. It's ok to hear a name and assume that that person is common, chavvy, troubled, comes from a "sink estate" on here. Apparently.

I will always say if you are so narrow minded and shallow that you judge someone based on their name, the place they live, their accent, the clothes they wear, if you are happy to make a split second judgement based on those factors and consider a person somehow beneath you because of these things, it says a lot about you as a person.

And that's a judgement based on your actions, not your name.

[blueshoes]

We don't live in a non-discriminatory utopia. So I will continue to choose a name for my child that does not assume they do.

[DancesWithWoolEnPointe]

Why don't you chose a name you like regardless of society, and teach your kids not to discriminate, try and make the world a better place instead of shrugging your shoulders and being part of the problem?

[blueshoes]

Dances, one does not follow another. The two are not mutually exclusive. My children are not a social experiment.

[Tinlegs]

But surely saying something about a name on an Internet site is not the same as judging IRL? People might be cautious when choosing a name, mindful of its connotations but that doesn't mean they would personally look unfavourably on someone with that name, just that they are aware that is the way the world works.

Take Kevin, for example. Totally ruined as a name by Harry Enfield but the only Kevin's I have known (my generation -40s) were really, really posh. So, if choosing a name, however much I loved Kevin, I might decide against, mindful of its more recent press as being "common".

[Tinlegs]

Kevins - bloody iPad.

[usualsuspect]

Kevin was never a 'posh' name

And yes,why would your opinion on a name be different on the internet to in RL.

Unless your Just post what you think mnetters want to hear.

[Tinlegs]

We all think things we do not articulate. We all feel things we keep to ourselves. On an anonymous forum our views are often those we might otherwise keep to ourselves. Certainly, I would never openly judge a person based on a name when offering a job or meeting them. (Something that would be shameful and, probably, illegal) However, inside, I might have a tiny thought.....something I would post (because we were asked...) but never say aloud.

[propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS]

I would avoid it, tbh.

[Tinlegs]

But, while they might be views at are upsetting to those who have picked the name, it is not the same, as some have suggested, as racism or prejudice or whatever as we are just anonymous posts, not offering jobs or status or whatever. Still hurtful, I agree..