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Gordon Brown for PM?

308 replies

Wilkolampshade · 15/10/2021 19:22

I don't know, just watching the Blair/Brown documentary, does anyone think we could/should bring back Gordon Brown as leader of the Labour Party for a shot at P. M?
YABU... Absolutely not, what ARE you thinking?!?!
YANBU.... Why not, how much worse could it get?

OP posts:
wealldiealone · 15/10/2021 22:12

There may be problems in the north but it's not one homogeneous place. Neither is the south.

Deprived? Several London boroughs are amongst the most deprived in the country. Then there's Cornwall. High levels of poverty. And look up Jaywick in Essex.

There's also actually a lot of deprivation in one of the richest parts of the country. Kensington and Chelsea is a borough of extremes. Remember this is the council of Grenfell.

London is the epicentre of the public health housing and homelessness emergency. Two thirds of England's homeless families are in London. You don't get more deprived than homeless.

The problems of today's society are not a regional thing. There are people struggling all over the UK.

We need decent national policies and more balance. Less of the hate and division, more actual constructive positive changes

We need an end to postcode lotteries - be it for public transport, job opportunities, infrastructure, or housing

The last thing this country needs is yet more campaigns based on stoking division - including race, age, or class

All of this, too

schoolsoutforever · 15/10/2021 22:20

He would have been infinitely better but people don’t seem to want dour, sensible, serious PMs; they want ‘sexy’ (…?.!🤮), ‘charismatic’ men of the people who shag birds (like Mussolini)…and have messy blonde hair.

TellingBone · 15/10/2021 22:22

Yes. An honourable man. Probably the only electable person that could bring me back to Labour. I'm currently party-less due to Lab's stand on women's rights.

stuckdownahole · 15/10/2021 22:28

The last serious person to be Prime Minister, but all the contemporary accounts suggest he was totally unsuited psycho

stuckdownahole · 15/10/2021 22:28

Psychologically.

I'm not calling him a Psychological!

stuckdownahole · 15/10/2021 22:29

I give up with this predictive text.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 15/10/2021 22:29

Didn’t he introduce tax credits? For that reason alone, I’d vote elsewhere or not at all.

WoodburnersRUs · 15/10/2021 22:37

Gordon Brown definitely has principles and decency in spades but he didn’t mKe a good politician. He was however very helpful in the IndtRef. He is best viewed with the rosé tinted spectacles of hindsight but he was no better a politician than the people we have now. Probably a nicer person though. And that is something to respect.

Sorka · 15/10/2021 22:38

No.

Pensions have never recovered.

Sold our gold reserves off for cheap and even announced what he was doing before flooding the market, meaning our gold was sold for rock bottom prices.

NHS PFI contracts.

Arrogant enough to believe he’d abolished boom and bust. The credit crunch proved him wrong.

MereDintofPandiculation · 15/10/2021 22:43

I thought it started in 1973 when I was looking to buy my first house. I'd phone up about a house that had just gone on the market in my price range only to find out they'd accepted a cash offer 50% over the asking price Yes, but there was a big crash in the early 1990s. It's when the term "negative equity" came into prominence

MrsFin · 15/10/2021 23:00

@ArblemarchTFruitbat

We could do a lot worse than Gordon Brown.

We have done a lot worse than Gordon Brown!

Covidworries · 15/10/2021 23:10

Ugggh
Brown the pension thief - dont want him back

Rivermonsters · 15/10/2021 23:11

Rather have Tony 🤤🤤

MrsHookey · 15/10/2021 23:11

Jeez a random neighbour could do better than the current government.

Staffy1 · 15/10/2021 23:12

Well the woman was bigoted, but of course we all have to pretend that being anti-immigration is a 'legitimate' perspective

Why is it so hard for people to understand that peoples concerns about it might be something other than racism, such as the fact that there are already numerous problems due to overcrowding and an infrastructure that can’t cope with the population. Always dismissing these concerns as racism is not right.

Anon778833 · 15/10/2021 23:13

I like GB. I can see his charisma even though for a lot of people it doesn’t translate on camera.

Feedingthebirds1 · 15/10/2021 23:30

Working tax credits and Brown's (and Blair's) enthusiastic adoption of PFI (introduced under the Tories but embraced and pushed much further under Labour) have done as much to put money in the hands of business as the Tories have done with their tax breaks and jobs for the boys.

Changechangychange · 15/10/2021 23:44

@SickAndTiredAgain

his blind eye (lost playing rugby I think) made him look shifty on camera.

I genuinely despair if this is seen as relevant by anyone.

It is unfortunately, I’ve had to pull my DM up on it a couple of times (I’m not 100% sure she knew he was blind at first). I have overheard more than one comment about David Blunkett too (not from my DM, from random members of the public).
RJnomore1 · 15/10/2021 23:52

It’s unfortunate but we are hard wired to regard eye contact as meaning trustworthy.

Most of our current cabinet could I expect look you in the eye while knifing you in the ribs.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 15/10/2021 23:54

I always thought he was a conviction politician

Was not particularly happy when labour ‘lost’ the election but they still tried to get a coalition with the lib dems (absolutely they were entitled to try)

littlebilliie · 16/10/2021 00:14

@hellsbells99

Didn’t he sell off half our gold reserves when prices were down? Lost us billions of pounds
Yep at the bottom of the market
RJnomore1 · 16/10/2021 00:17

He was definitely a conviction politician and about the last of his type

TrampolineForMrKite · 16/10/2021 00:19

Always liked Gordon Brown. Bring him back!

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 16/10/2021 00:19

There was a really interesting Telegraph article about the selling of the gold reserves a few years after it happened. The gist of it seemed to be that GB was aware that the US crash was going to potentially collapse the banking system. By doing exactly what he did, he stabilised it enough to stagger on. On paper it looked disastrous but if the banking system had collapsed, things would have been far worse for the UK.
I'm not an economist so don't ask me to explain further.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 16/10/2021 00:24

Why is it so hard for people to understand that peoples concerns about it might be something other than racism, such as the fact that there are already numerous problems due to overcrowding and an infrastructure that can’t cope with the population. Always dismissing these concerns as racism is not right

Exactly