To report this to police? BIL urinating on DC’s toys.

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Posted before. Having major issues with BIL and his partner who live next door (all very complicated) please look at other posts to fill in blanks if you wish.

Anyway, police are involved regarding threats, letting livestock out of sheds (which we have clear, video evidence of) and property being damaged.

We’ve been noticing glass around our children’s toys for a while now. Didn’t think anything of it but it was such a frequent occurrence that we decided to get a trail cam to see if it was malicious. We’ve had it set up for a few nights now, haven’t seen anything regarding the placing of any glass near our children’s toys (although we haven’t actually noticed any during this time and we check daily!)
But we did capture BIL urinating over DD’s picnic bench, ball and seesaw. I’m really grossed out by it. Honestly think it’s disgusting and obviously seems malicious. He is quite obviously very un well mentally to be doing such things. OH is very reluctant to report this to the police as they’ve been very slow/reluctant to act so far despite having clear evidence of him doing certain things. He’s lost all faith. Would they take this seriously. You can clearly see it’s him and what he’s doing.

This doesn't sound like mental illness but harassment, given that they're trying to force you out. It's outrageous. I would report to the police!

I do recall your previous posts - sounds like a nightmare, I'm so sorry.
I'd definitely report it. At risk of getting biblical, your enemy has been delivered into your hands: if you have (presumably) photographic or video evidence in which he can be clearly identified pissing on your child's stuff, then the police will act, and fairly decisively, I'd say. Good luck.

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Thank you all. I’ll be reporting him again.

It’s all MIL’s estate. She died 4 years ago and OH is the farmer. They want us gone so are trying to force us out. MIL split the land and houses 4 ways although the land was promised to OH and he worked for a pittance. We’re now having to go down the proprietary estoppel route which is costing us a fortune and is in itself very frightening but a barrister has told us that we’ve got a very good case.

All this over land? Is it really worth it, financially, emotionally? What do the other 2 beneficiaries want, given your bil wants you out? Does bil plan to farm the land or does he want to sell?

It's a shame your mil gave your Dh the impression he'd be left the land when she had no intention of doing so.

any chance you can show the video to the rest of the family? would that help or make it worse?

Any chance you can improve the security around where you live? Bigger fences, etc?

If my kids were living nextdoor to someone as unhinged/ abusive as that, you bet your bottom dollar I'd report it. In fact, I'd make him wish he'd never been born.

Report it. Sounds like he needs a reality check anyway?

I remember your other threads OP.

Report the clarty mink. And keep reporting everything that nasty harassing bully does.

He should be ashamed of himself. He won’t be but he bloody well should be.

Yes, report.

Of course you should report it! I’d get a bit more footage first, though; the stronger the case, the better. Keep the camera on for a few more days (and install a few more if you’re able to). Maybe make it obvious that you’re off out for the day, too, so he’s more likely to try something in daylight. Gather evidence so that the police have got plenty to go on.

Horrible who would do that to a child, let alone their own niece. This is one of the worst things I have read on here. It's especially awful because he's not even doing it for a reaction from you, since he doesn't know you would find out - he's doing it just because he's that horrible and spiteful. Report report report.

Thats utterly disgusting and inexcusable! Absolutely report it!

Absolutely report.
I would because apart from the fact it is a violation anyway I would be concerned about his behaviour escalating.
This is already a personal attack.

Report and get a restraining order. There are no mitigating circumstances.

Wtf! totally disgusting and would definitely report. Incredibly malicious… I would be quite scared tbh, he’s messing with animals and now children… hope you get him out of your lives and well away

Report it. Tell the police you have the evidence. Keep copies of everything for your own records. He's posing a direct danger to your DCs. The police *should act on this. If they don't, they'll just be proving how corrupted they are.

Contrary to what some PPs say, you don't need to wait. Report it now.

:(.
sorry you are going through this.

I would report it to the police and say you got the camera as you believe he was putting broken glass around your kids toys to injure them, who the fuck does that!
So sorry you have to stay and stick this out. I’d suggest getting ring camera’s, they’re cheapishl work without being wired and give you real time updates and store any footage.

What a disgusting human being your BIL is - report

You really need to report every single time he does something antisocial/criminal, because it will be the accumulation of nasty deeds that will eventually be successful in getting appropriate action from the police/mental health authorities.

They will eventually prove that he is guilty of antisocial/criminal behaviour targeted towards your family. (and can also be evidence that his mental health is posing a danger to your family and perhaps get him sectioned eventually).

Eventually, with enough episodes reported and evidenced by video, he will either be arrested and charged or sectioned.

Think long game rather than short term, every single report will add up in time. (and I'd be moving all childrens outdoor things into a shed every evening so that they cannot be targeted by him.)

Maybe invest in some more recording devices scattered round your property too, preferably with either night vision and motion detected recording.

Please discuss with your solicitor whether you have grounds for an interim injunction under the Harassment Act or a non-molestation injunction and an occupation order under the Family Law Act. I don't know what the layout of the land is, but if it is possible to exclude BiL from some specific areas this may help. I doubt that the court would exclude him from his home, but it may be possible to carve out some protected areas, and have a power of arrest attached.

That sounds absolutely horrific - I would definitely report it to the police.

What do you think is the best long-term outcome of all this, though, if you are all having to live at such close quarters?

I think you should, even if only to help establish a pattern of behaviour.

This is disgusting and yes you should go to the police. Going back to your other posts though, I would suggest that (which still doesn't make this acceptable) they are trying to get rid of you which I assume is because despite the advise of two solicitors you and your OH keep trying to claim land that is residual land which is not yours.