AIBU to think either men or their exes are lying about orgasms?!

[samosamo]

So, just listened to today's womans hour - bear with me! All about how only 20% of woman orgasms through vaginally sex alone. I knew this, but the conversation reminded me of conversations I've before when the man has said to me 'but all the women I've slept with before you have (because I so truly refuse to pretend, I think pretending will get neither of us anywhere if a mutual outcome is what were after!).

So, AIBU to think it's either the men, or the women they have been with, who are fibbing??!! Which do you think? (Unless of course, it's true and these men are just mr lover lover guys!!!)

[TheGoogleMum]

I think a lot of women fake it. I am not a faker myself, I usually have one but not always and if I don't DH is disappointed (he feels like hes failed but!) but there's always next time, no point pretending I had one if I didn't

[Dollywilde]

I think women fake it a lot and often guys know that on some level but don’t want to question it. I don’t with DH but I did in my dim and distant past occasionally, despite knowing it wouldn’t resolve anything and wasn’t the helpful thing to do