Neighbours daughter...

[Francescaisstressed]

Last summer was horrific. We are in a middle terrace house. The one side is lovely, recently had a newborn baby. The other side is also lovely, apart from their young daughter.
Last summer when she came back home from uni, it was non stop parties, loud music, screeching and hot tub. I think she's 18 or so. The last few months have been blissfully quiet, but she's just returned home again today.
The music has already started, they re decorating the garden for a party and a bunch of cars are already outside.
Both my partner and I work from home - they know this.
The music is so loud I can hear it over noise cancelling headphones I bought last summer because of this.
Last summer, I knocked the door one day after the 4th day of loud music. They have a ring doorbell and I was ignored.
What do I do? I'm terrified of going the more formal route because i don't want to cause an issue, and also hoping that in the next year or two we can move.
But I just struggle in the house with it so badly. I can't enjoy my garden at all because of the behaviour, literally never used it in the summer and starting to dread the nice weather.
But I wouldn't mind so much if it was a weekend thing, it's the work days at 10.30 in the morning that kill me off.
what should I do?
YABU - try and ignore it and just move
YANBU - report and or write letter etc to them

[OnTheBenchOfDoom]

If you do want to confront her and she won't answer the door, get a step stool or chair and stand on it so you can see over the fence and into the garden. That way she cannot avoid you.

[Jellybabiesforbreakfast]

Could you start blasting classical music very loudly from your garden as soon as she starts up with the noise? Then turn it off when she quietens down.

[BRB2021]

Stand as near as you can to the noise and ring Environmental Health. They can then hear it for themselves. Dont put up with it/be nice/ give warnings it rarely works long term with such selfish people. Go straight to EH

[oakleaffy]

@Whenwillitmakesense

What about getting one of those speakers that produce sounds that only teens can hear - I know they have these in shopping centres etc..

''Mosquitos''
I too was sorely tempted to buy one of these once..
Noise is torture.

A friend moved house to a detached country place to escape noisy children in a terraced house..{He had two well behaved young teens at the time}..But his neighbours screeched and door slammed constantly.

I put up with endless DIY noise for over 18 months each side, endless hammering and drilling as they completely redid a victorian house.
Terraced houses are very risky.



People are far noisier these days, and it definitely depends on the parents how loud kids are....

Detatched houses in some parts of the Country are so expensive if old.

But maybe move, OP?

[barbrahunter]

I am another casualty of noisy, inconsiderate neighbours. I sold up and moved and I would advise you to do the same, OP, even if you weren't really planning it yet.

[seashells11]

Perhaps appeal to their better nature by inviting mum and daughter round for a cup of tea and cake in the garden, then drop it it in to the conversation. Being extra nice with them might be more effective than any kind of confrontation.

[oakleaffy]

@Notcontent

It’s very difficult. Ultimately, when people live close together it is only bearable if people are considerate. And most people are - but you do get some people who have absolutely no consideration for others at all. I really feel for you OP.

I also live in a mid terrace but one day hope to have no neighbours nearby!!!

Ditto!

Re social housing comment, My mum lives in an area near Richmond Park, SW London where the uber wealthy have loud parties and don't give a f&ck.

You get inconsiderate @rseholes wether rich or poorer.
Jimmy Page, net worth £130 million, has a complete dick of a Next door neighbour.
Noise and vibration.
Holland Park, London.

[Lovemusic33]

I have neighbours like this too, kids are now in their 20’s and every summer I have to listen to their music, their shouting and screaming (the daughter screams like a 5 year old), themparties don’t bother me too much as it’s not all the time but the general noise during the day and all the swearing does annoy me.

Last year it was made worse buy a family moving in up the road and having parties several times a week and police turning up several times due to noise and drugs.

We live in a village so it’s not like it’s a rough area.

[1forAll74]

I would try and speak to the offending people about the noise.Do you have other neighbours who are troubled by this also. and have made complaints.. The trouble is, that there can be people around, who simply don't care about what noise they make in the gardens,and can get spikey towards people who make complaints, and carry on regardless.

I don't imagine that the police will get involved,unless someone is having a big rave night, with techno crap blaring out all night long.

[SelkieIntegrated]

I sympathise that she has a younger brother. I had that on one side. Non stop parties. Taylor's 18, you don't mind!? Harvey's 16th, you don't mind do you? Brandon's 21st, you don't mind do you?! Taylor's 21st, Harvey's 18th. Brandon and Chloe's engagement party! You don't mind do you?

It was RELENTLESS.

[SelkieIntegrated]

Not exact names obvs

[Devlesko]

I think you just have to but up with it.
Unless it's over a certain amount of decibels or unsociable hours, they can do pretty much as they please.
Noise cancelling headphones only take out background noise, so if it's close by, they won't work anyway.

[RedMarauder]

I don't imagine that the police will get involved,unless someone is having a big rave night, with techno crap blaring out all night long.

Depends where you live.

There are local universities were I am, so when I've put in a noise complaint to the police they have gone around to have a word with the "student(s)" concerned. Until they can prove otherwise the young adult is a student of one of the local universities. Regardless they get told off.

[suzy2b]

Not suppose to have more than 2 households meeting indoors so call police when it's under way and say there is a party next door

[waitingforthenextseason]

She can only have 6 friends in the back garden right now anyway. Call the police every time you see more arrive.

[NormanStangerson]

I'm terrified of going the more formal route because i don't want to cause an issue, and also hoping that in the next year or two we can move.

What are you terrified of?

Your options are:

Talk to them again, but try to get somewhere.

Report then to environmental health re: the noise / the police re: the Covid stuff.

Live with it for two years or so until you decide to move.

[Unsure33]

I think if you talk to them and they do nothing I would be tempted to put a speaker close to the fence and play something really annoying everytime it gets too much .

Like baby shark , or a siren , or nursery rhymes .

[Unsure33]

@NormanStangerson

I think they mean it will get flagged up on sale , and then they might not be able to move .

[TonTonMacoute]

Re social housing comment, My mum lives in an area near Richmond Park, SW London where the uber wealthy have loud parties and don't give a f&ck.

Ha ha, this is true, with knobs on!

A friend of mine was on the verge of buying a lovely house in Chiswick. One afternoon she went on a scoping visit (she wanted to see how long it took to get to the bus stop) and she bumped into the guy who was currently living in 'her' house as a tenant.

He told her on no account to buy it because of the noisy neighbours. They were a couple who were quite famous from a TV programme, and they were serious party animals.

One of the main reasons she wanted to move was because the house next door to her was an HMO, and the noise drove her mad.

She withdrew her offer!

[NormanStangerson]

The law around what counts as a neighbourly dispute is pretty unclear, so either anonymously report to the council or, as I was heavily suggesting, talk to them. Again. Properly.

[Gothichouse40]

Very difficult. Id lurk behind the curtains and try and catch the girl going out. Be pleasant and say could you have a few moments to chat, Im so and so from next door. Try to explain to the girl. If that doesn't work, try the parents, if nothing works as a last resort, the Council. Keep a diary of all incidents, times, places, dates as that will show the frequency of the noise. It's ridiculous that it's drowning out noise cancelling headphones. As a last resort, if it's really bad the police, but once you phone them, things between you will never be the same. As to all the people saying move, what guarantee is there that new neighbours are any better? You could end up in a worse situation.

[ThisIsStartingToBoreMe]

I managed to get this stopped by playing opera music at full volume at 6am the night after one of their parties when i was finally fed up.

But playing annoying music at the same time sounds a lot more sensible!

[beginningoftheend]

I would move now if possible, why put yourself through it?

[NailsNeedDoing]

If it’s during the day, are they actually doing anything wrong?

You being noise sensitive and having work calls from home isn’t your neighbours fault. It could be that they are being genuinely loud and anti social, or it could be that it’s just young people enjoying their garden in a normal way, and the only reason others can hear it is because you’re in a terrace. Surely noise from neighbours is to be expected when you share walls and a garden fence?

[rwalker]

No big explanation just tell her that her level of music is unacceptable and that you don't want to listen to her music all day invite her round to see what you mean .