Neighbours daughter...

[Francescaisstressed]

Last summer was horrific. We are in a middle terrace house. The one side is lovely, recently had a newborn baby. The other side is also lovely, apart from their young daughter.
Last summer when she came back home from uni, it was non stop parties, loud music, screeching and hot tub. I think she's 18 or so. The last few months have been blissfully quiet, but she's just returned home again today.
The music has already started, they re decorating the garden for a party and a bunch of cars are already outside.
Both my partner and I work from home - they know this.
The music is so loud I can hear it over noise cancelling headphones I bought last summer because of this.
Last summer, I knocked the door one day after the 4th day of loud music. They have a ring doorbell and I was ignored.
What do I do? I'm terrified of going the more formal route because i don't want to cause an issue, and also hoping that in the next year or two we can move.
But I just struggle in the house with it so badly. I can't enjoy my garden at all because of the behaviour, literally never used it in the summer and starting to dread the nice weather.
But I wouldn't mind so much if it was a weekend thing, it's the work days at 10.30 in the morning that kill me off.
what should I do?
YABU - try and ignore it and just move
YANBU - report and or write letter etc to them

[justasking111]

Well I would wait until party was in full swing then call police if the numbers exceed what is allowed, not sure coz not in England. That will piss her parents off no end.

[TonTonMacoute]

I would give them one last chance and say that unless they reduce the noise you will report them to the council.

If they still don't co operate then I guess you will just have to put up with it until you are able to move. I wouldn't want to launch an official complaint is I was planning to move soonish.

[ILoveShula]

If you can, get another neighbour to report it too.

[notagainmummy]

Report to environmental health. If they make you life a misery, moving is still an option.

[MrKlaw]

tricky with wfh isn't it? aren't most nuisance noise things based on how late in the evening the noise is happening? During the day you'd expect its ok to make some noise, so it can be more about compromise and being polite - and when they aren't you're stuck

[savvy7]

I would grit my teeth and ignore it. Things like this are transient and you don't want to create a dispute if you are looking to sell.

Although there are never any guarantees that you won't encounter this elsewhere.

[fuzzyduck1]

Phone the old bill if there is more than 6.
It’s inconsiderate people like her that we are where we are now.
Besides the government could to with the money from the fines.

[HairyFloppins]

It's crap isn't OP.

We just moved as the house over the back played constant loud music and late night parties.

The new area although touch wood is quieter at night there is still garden music coming from the house over the back so you get it everywhere. I dream of living in the middle of nowhere with no neighbours.

Hope they move. Selfish people everywhere I'm afraid.

[user1487194234]

@skirk64

Yes, you have to inform potential buyers of anything that could put them off purchasing it, like noise. Legally you have to inform them even if you haven't complained, however a complaint puts it in black and white and can be used in evidence against you if you don't tell them. The days of "sold as seen" have been over for a while now.

It's shit and I'm in a similar position to you (the difference with me is that my neighbour's home is social housing, so it attracts a string of tenants who have no respect for their neighbours). I know I can't complain, I just have to wait until I can afford to move, and hope for the best.

I don't think it is fair to say that social housing attracts people who have no respect for neighbours.
That is just being snobby.

OP I would make more of an effort to engage with your neighbours ,to try and sort it out .If the girl is away at Uni at least its not all the time.

Sadly for the young people pretty much all they can do at present is meet in gardens

If you report you will have to declare it when you sell,meaning you will struggle to sell ,or have to substantially drop the price.

i don't believe in reporting for Covid breaches,but if you do then that's an option.

At the end of the day,generally speaking there has to be a bit of live and left live,particulaly in flats or terraced housing.

[Jennifer2021]

The music has already started, they re decorating the garden for a party and a bunch of cars are already outside.

If it continues into the night ring 101 and remind them your surrounding neighbours and you have work in the morning. A bunch of cars means they're breaching Covid rules too surely?

[HollowTalk]

That's such a horrible situation to be in. I'd feel really bad if I sold the house to someone, too.

Are they renting or buying? If they're renting I'd definitely tell the landlady.

[HollowTalk]

Is the nice neighbour disturbed by it as well?

[CoffeandPancakes]

Don't call the police. This will be logged and you will have to declare it when you move and noise complaints are very undesirable when buying. I certainly wouldn't touch it with a bargepole if that popped up.

I don't know the legalities, but if you complain about the fact they're having a party and presumably they aren't sticking to the covid rule of 6, you might not have to declare it, as it isn't a neighbour dispute as such. As I say though, I'm not 100%, but might be worth looking into.
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I'm sorry, OP. I really do feel your pain. I can't stand inconsiderate neighbours. They really can ruin lives. Speaking from bitter experience.

Hope it's resolved one way or another

[cripez]

Rule of 6 is still enforceable, I think. So once they all start arriving, shop em. I wouldn't ship my own ndn for this, but mine don't have form for throwing obnoxious parties.

[Jennifer2021]

^Don't call the police. This will be logged and you will have to declare it when you move and noise complaints are very undesirable when buying. I certainly wouldn't touch it with a bargepole if that popped up.

I don't know the legalities, but if you complain about the fact they're having a party and presumably they aren't sticking to the covid rule of 6, you might not have to declare it, as it isn't a neighbour dispute as such. As I say though, I'm not 100%, but might be worth looking into.^

Report it as a Covid breach then OP that way it won't be logged with buyers and sellers in future but they'll still get a warning.

[amusedbush]

I'm not a curtain twitcher or the covid police but in this case, I'd dob them in for breaking the rules.

I feel for the pp with neighbours who play music loudly in their gardens. Playing something quietly in the background when chatting with guests is one thing but if you're outside alone and want to blare music, wear some bloody headphones. There's no reason to subject all and sundry to your playlist!

[fringeandtrainers]

I had a similar issue last summer and it's still not perfect but it's a lot better. For us it took lots of polite asking, going around etc. Then one summer day the music started as came home and turned my key in the lock. At 8 months pregnant I couldn't take it anymore and SCREAMED at them. That shocked them into action and they've been a lot better since. We still have to occasionally text to ask them to keep it down a bit, but we have also befriended them, offered the guy some work on our house and given their now small baby gifts etc. That dual approach seems to work. It's hard sometimes because we have thin walls and small gardens but like you, we are hoping to build up some equity and make the next move with a little more space and sound proofing! Good luck.

[Jennifer2021]

I feel for the pp with neighbours who play music loudly in their gardens. Playing something quietly in the background when chatting with guests is one thing but if you're outside alone and want to blare music, wear some bloody headphones. There's no reason to subject all and sundry to your playlist!

@amusedbush thankyou for saying that. Our delightful NDN decided to treat everyone to a very loud garden party with loud music and screaming shouting until the early hours on a weekday. No consideration for those who've got to get up for work and school in the morning!

[InescapableDeath]

I would move - I know it's dramatic, but we just moved to get away from awful neighbours and it's been worthwhile (though expensive). We were lucky enough to get detached so we may still get garden noise of course, but at least no one will be playing music directly against my wall.

[Wondergirl100]

Okay - first of all Op - I've had problems with neighbours and read a lot about this - number one you need to talk to them properly. Please dont go down council route until you have done that - it will escalate tensions.

Most people are at least prepared to listen. I don't know if you are being oversensitive but it sounds like an unfair amount of noise to me.

Talk to her - talk to her parents and try to set up some sort of boundaries of acceptable levels of noise etc.

[TheGlassBlowersDaughter]

Can you suggest a compromise to the mum eg you don't mind if it's weekends or if it's between certain hours?
You could call the council but yy you're supposed to declare that as an issue when you go to move and, also, it's fairly rare for noise levels to be so bad that the EHO will act. People are sensitive to noise when it's near their home but the noise levels that are allowed are actually quite high. We used to live near a concert venue. I was always amazed at the acceptable noise levels. Our neighbour called out the EHO on numerous occasions and there was only once that they actually acted on it.

[CoffeandPancakes]

@inescapableDeath, same here. Honestly, the relief is incredible. Been here almost a year now and I still can't believe we don't need to worry about yet another night of no sleep, thanks to our NDN full volume TV and music.

I lie in our bed now and I can't tell you how lucky I feel.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Well...maybe the inconsiderate arsehole neighbours, just so they could have a taste of their own medicine.

[Whenwillitmakesense]

What about getting one of those speakers that produce sounds that only teens can hear - I know they have these in shopping centres etc..

[Notcontent]

It’s very difficult. Ultimately, when people live close together it is only bearable if people are considerate. And most people are - but you do get some people who have absolutely no consideration for others at all. I really feel for you OP.

I also live in a mid terrace but one day hope to have no neighbours nearby!!!

[Waiting423]

I would just put up with it and market and move as soon as she’s gone back to university .