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Walking alone in forests?

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Vemjs · 21/04/2021 21:48

I was just wondering if most women are happy to walk through a Forest / big fields / nature reserves on their own for a dog walk? Or do you view this as dangerous?

Sorry it's probably not under right topic!

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HikeForward · 24/04/2021 22:20

I can’t be arsed with having to leash my well trained, obedient dog every time we meet a dog owner on the other end of a leash of a growling, snarling beast, demanding that my dog is put on a leash because theirs is “reactive”. Once or twice, per two hour walk is fine. 60 times, per walk, is intolerable. Not to mention the hysterical parents who scream and flap at their children because.... “OMG there’s a dog. Quick, come here. That dog will bite you. Get away, get away dog. I don’t like you!”🙄

What type of dog do you have? 60x a walk? Does he look menacing or just not walking to heel? Why is he getting near enough that people are telling him to go away?

The trouble with reactive dogs is the owner has NO IDEA yours is well trained and obedient. They don’t know yours won’t approach theirs so they warn you. Suppose your dog rushed up to a leashed dog and got bitten or worse? Pet insurance is unlikely to pay if yours was running free and the other wasn’t.

When I walk GS a lot of people let their dogs bound right up to him or try to squeeze past him, so I let the owner know he is reactive so they have time to recall or leash.

It’s bewildering how many people let dogs off leash when they have no recall or come back at the 5th attempt. At best it’s bad manners at worst it’s dangerous!

As a parent, I get annoyed when off leash dogs come sniffing around my child or bound up to her. That doesn’t make me hysterical. If an unknown dog is barrelling towards her or circling her that’s scary; and children sometimes run on instinct, making it worse. I’ve had furious words with owners who let dogs come up to my child. How do I know your cute French bulldogs won’t jump up and snap at her? Or that your retriever won’t knock her into the mud with his enthusiasm? She doesn’t want to be licked or jumped on or barged into!

Do owners no longer call their dogs to heel to pass other walkers and dogs?

If I see a dog running straight towards us I put myself between my child and the dog. A firm ‘no’ or ‘get back’ or ‘leave it’ shouted at the dog in a harsh tone usually sends it back to the owner. Then angry owner says ‘but he was only playing’ 🙄
Obviously if GS is with us he deals with any dogs who invade our space.

Do people not realise how scary and threatening an off lead dog can be, especially a large breed? I can’t imagine letting GS off in public even if he were dog friendly with impeccable recall, as I wouldn’t want to terrify people.

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indiakulfi · 25/04/2021 00:13

@Natsku where i live we have no street lights, the darkness has to be seen to be believed as there are only about three houses in my road. I have to always have a torch in my car.

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Mintypink · 25/04/2021 07:38

Yes I run & walk everywhere alone and with my dog. Always have red attack spray paint with me though. Apparently this is UK legal but I don’t really care about that. 👍

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Saucery · 25/04/2021 07:54

I do and have done for years, with and without a dog. My last dog didn’t like men who gave off ‘vibes’ (standing still, over-friendly) and although that could have been me transferring tiny little signals of my own unease to her the end result was the same - an alert medium to large breed bristling and giving warning barks.
The asshats only get out of bed late afternoon round here, so I go early morning when it’s just joggers, dog walkers, bird watchers etc.
I have started to vary my route with the new puppy (not that she can walk far at all yet) because although a lot of the dog theft panic on social media can be taken with a pinch of salt, I am aware that her value might make me a target. They’d not get away with her with both their eyes if they tried it, however.

Most lone walking men I meet are very careful to convey they are harmless, I have to say, which I appreciate. I know DH does the same reassuring things when he is out with his camera for wildlife photography too.

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JacobMarley · 25/04/2021 12:12

What type of dog do you have? 60x a walk? Does he look menacing or just not walking to heel? Why is he getting near enough that people are telling him to go away

He’s a small Cocker. He does not look intimidating. He walks with me, always with nose to ground sniffing. He has no interest in people, kids, joggers, cyclists, other dogs. He does not approach anyone. He sticks to my leg.

I allow him to sniff in the undergrowth and swim in the river when there’s nobody around - or if other dogs are off lead in the river. As long as he’s not being a nuisance to others I see no reason to keep him tethered. Do you?

If other people have raised their dog to be scared of other dogs the problem is theirs. Why make their problem everybody else’s problem?

Even if my dog had any inclination to approach another dog - which he doesn’t - I would not allow him to approach a dig on leash. For his own protection.

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 25/04/2021 12:50

And I love owners like you.

The dog I walk has been bitten a few times now and as a result is reactive. It is something we are all working on but the fear is there and any unwanted attention by a strange dog is unwanted by both of us.

She has never bitten but looks fierce as anything when she barks. Strangers think she is vicious but she isn’t - she’s scared.

I don’t care if dogs are off lead - as long as folk can prevent them getting near her. She relies on me to keep her safe and feeling secure. I can’t do that with ‘oh he’s only saying hello/is friendly/you have to let them socialise/etc.

The latter I agree with but it has to be a dog she ‘knows’ and trusts and the situation is under control.

She’d no more protect me than pie in the sky though! We walk a park late at night and she seeks out all the people who may or may not be collecting things for private use....

They love her. And as such I feel safe round these parts as most know me through her!

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R1ce0fcal1fl0wer · 25/04/2021 13:21

Yes have done frequently
I used to live next to 2 different forests
I don't have a dog
Used to see deer, horse riders, foxes, not many people

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blowinahoolie · 25/04/2021 13:28

@HikeForward

I can’t be arsed with having to leash my well trained, obedient dog every time we meet a dog owner on the other end of a leash of a growling, snarling beast, demanding that my dog is put on a leash because theirs is “reactive”. Once or twice, per two hour walk is fine. 60 times, per walk, is intolerable. Not to mention the hysterical parents who scream and flap at their children because.... “OMG there’s a dog. Quick, come here. That dog will bite you. Get away, get away dog. I don’t like you!”🙄

What type of dog do you have? 60x a walk? Does he look menacing or just not walking to heel? Why is he getting near enough that people are telling him to go away?

The trouble with reactive dogs is the owner has NO IDEA yours is well trained and obedient. They don’t know yours won’t approach theirs so they warn you. Suppose your dog rushed up to a leashed dog and got bitten or worse? Pet insurance is unlikely to pay if yours was running free and the other wasn’t.

When I walk GS a lot of people let their dogs bound right up to him or try to squeeze past him, so I let the owner know he is reactive so they have time to recall or leash.

It’s bewildering how many people let dogs off leash when they have no recall or come back at the 5th attempt. At best it’s bad manners at worst it’s dangerous!

As a parent, I get annoyed when off leash dogs come sniffing around my child or bound up to her. That doesn’t make me hysterical. If an unknown dog is barrelling towards her or circling her that’s scary; and children sometimes run on instinct, making it worse. I’ve had furious words with owners who let dogs come up to my child. How do I know your cute French bulldogs won’t jump up and snap at her? Or that your retriever won’t knock her into the mud with his enthusiasm? She doesn’t want to be licked or jumped on or barged into!

Do owners no longer call their dogs to heel to pass other walkers and dogs?

If I see a dog running straight towards us I put myself between my child and the dog. A firm ‘no’ or ‘get back’ or ‘leave it’ shouted at the dog in a harsh tone usually sends it back to the owner. Then angry owner says ‘but he was only playing’ 🙄
Obviously if GS is with us he deals with any dogs who invade our space.

Do people not realise how scary and threatening an off lead dog can be, especially a large breed? I can’t imagine letting GS off in public even if he were dog friendly with impeccable recall, as I wouldn’t want to terrify people.

My Saint is put on lead immediately if we see people in the distance. That includes young children. And dogs on lead. We know she is fine, but no one else does. It's all about using our common sense and being considerate.
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Nc967125 · 25/04/2021 13:32

I do - and up into the moors etc
But I do have a growly staffy which probably makes me feel a bit more confident about it!

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SamMil · 25/04/2021 13:36

I do feel safe but we live in the middle of nowhere and I walk with a large & slightly bitey dog. Or on a horse, which feels safer too.

I feel less safe walking where there are likely to be more people.

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Wackaday · 26/04/2021 16:11

Fields, parks, canals in my area have all had encounters of sexual assault and attacks; some have been horrific leading to murders and these are often women. I'm not near any forest land but I would be especially concerned walking here on my own. It's nice to hear that other women on this thread are not put off or maybe live in "safer" areas but your concern is certainly genuine and warranted OP

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Ddot · 26/04/2021 16:38

If park is busy then yes if quiet then no. I'm even wary to be the last one at allotment. Very sad but I have heard some horrible things. Couple of years ago some bloke I know his wife was walking her grandson in his pushchair and a dirty rotton toothed monster threatened her with a knife, he even threatened the baby so she gave up her bag. That poor lady was only on a little footpath in the woods enjoying the sun.

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Marmite27 · 26/04/2021 16:39

Urban Leeds, I spent 4 hours wondering around a wood/park/open field with a toddler earlier today.

Never felt unsafe. Saw lots of people/dogs/kids.

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Ddot · 26/04/2021 19:02

Just a little more info family still looking for monster and the woman was gypsy. God help him if they find him

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user1490954378 · 27/04/2021 19:40

There is a walk along the river about 30 mins walk away from where I live. The walk itself leads to a quiet road hidden by bushes and under a bridge, and then the river is about a minute's walk from there. The part where the river is, or very secluded. I love the walk, but I only ever walk there with my hubby, as I just wouldn't feel safe there alone. About ten minutes walk away from there up near a main road, my hubby saw a woman put running, being harassed by a man in a car a couple of weeks ago. He told the man to feck off and reported him with the registration number too. It's one thing this happening near a busy road, but what's stopping someone like that man from driving around the quieter bits of the area? People like that probably sometimes do, and I dread to think might happen if they saw a woman walking along the river alone.
I've been followed by a man while walking my dog along a country lane and up a long driveway which I walked up to seek help as I was very scared. The guy legged it back down the driveway and through nearby trees when he realised a car was coming down.

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user1490954378 · 27/04/2021 19:42

please excuse the typos, it's been a hard day...

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Ddot · 27/04/2021 20:17

I'd love to feel safe enough but I dont. Very unfair. I'd love to be free to go where I want, when I want.

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Sugaryouth · 27/04/2021 23:30

No, did it this week with our dog and never again. A Woodland Trust site of secluded fields and woodland but also on the outskirts of a city and within walking distance from bus stops/housing estates. Plenty of bushes, dense trees and dips in terrain. I’ve been plenty of times but never unaccompanied.

Having a great time with the dog, early morning, until I noticed a lone man sat on a bench where I wanted to be past. Quite far away but he really looked like he was engaging in a rather distinct action as I was getting closer. I immediately got that gut feeling that something wasn’t right, turned around and made a massive detour out of the site into the city and back to the car park that way rather than continue on or stay within the site for fear of seeing him again. Couldn’t enjoy the walk as I was on high alert.
So sad that quite a lot of us feel the same, I’d love to feel comfortable to enjoy these places alone as they’re my favourite spots.

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whatwouldjudydo · 28/04/2021 00:06

I do but my walking buddy is a husky so most people keep a fair distance (in reality she would welcome any weirdos over haha!!)

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dottiedaisee · 29/04/2021 00:01

Sadly a lady was murdered In Kent yesterday. Her little doggie stayed with her until she was found ! She was walking very close to her home but on a quiet bridleway .

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MimiDaisy11 · 29/04/2021 00:27

Do people really think their dog will protect them? Presumably they have not been in a situation where they were being attacked to know how the dog will respond to the attacker

I remember watching a crime programme where a would be attacker approached a teenage girl and then he saw she was out walking her dog. That put him off and he left. So it's not always down to the actions of the dog but that it gives extra issues to consider to would be attackers.

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Ddot · 29/04/2021 05:55

Did hear about a would be attacker who had his bits torn off by victims dog.

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Battleaxeoutofhell · 29/04/2021 06:02

I do, but I have a massive dog.
Not at night or dusk/dawn though.

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Rubyupbeat · 29/04/2021 06:52

I do, with my dogs, I live on London outskirts.

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LimitIsUp · 29/04/2021 09:56

@Ddot

Did hear about a would be attacker who had his bits torn off by victims dog.

Sounds like a modern legend. All a bit too neat - not just bitten, but a sort of poetic justice that his genitals were torn off.
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