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AIBU?

Friends dad has just posted a photo of monkeys on a car

150 replies

SuncreamInTheWinter · 06/06/2020 23:01

And then compared it to the blm protests.

I am typically "over sesnitive" but there is not way this isn't racist is it?

I'm starting to fear friend shares these views but secretly.

Aibu or is that a racist pic?

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 07/06/2020 10:45

Yes of course it’s racist. I doubt you are over sensitive- probably just very conditioned to politely bury things you disagree with so it causes cognitive dissonance when you see something that upsets you.
What are you going to do? It’s not enough to just ‘not be racist’ - we must all be ANTI racist. So are you feeling strong enough to confront? Or will you block and report ... or will you ignore?

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EmbarrassedUser · 07/06/2020 10:46

She can’t send it to her employers! I’m shocked that anyone would even consider it. End the friendship if that’s what you want @SuncreamInTheWinter but possibly being responsible for your friend going hungry or losing their home is way out of line. These posters have no conscience.

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Notredamn · 07/06/2020 10:49

Jesus Christ. These cunts are at least showing themselves in the full view of the world, on social media. How thick can you get? Or are they so steadfast in their bigoted beliefs that they think it's genuinely acceptable?

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CantSayJack · 07/06/2020 10:51

FFS. Do you really have to ask if it’s racist?

The insidious racists that are out there living amongst us, they don’t even pretend they are not racist anymore.

Call it out, report and block. Silence is compliance.

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CrazyTimesAreOccurring · 07/06/2020 10:57

Of course it is racist, do you need to ask?? He knows exactly what he is doing. Have you put any comment to him?

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Jux · 07/06/2020 11:02

It's horrific, does the awful man belong to the BNP?

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matchboxtwentyunwell · 07/06/2020 11:04

"I can't believe your dad posted that! It's so racist! Have you said anything to him about it?"

Her answer will tell you what you want to know.

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Chiochan · 07/06/2020 11:05

I really worry where our society is going. The whole reporting to employers this is truely facistic.
Someone holding racist views isnot grounds for them not being employed (unless it is likely to affect their ability to do their job, like being a police officer or teacher or something).
We reasonably may not want to be friends with a racist but the idea that an opinion or prejudice alone means someone should face legal santions is what happenes in facist countries.

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 07/06/2020 11:07

Ummm @Chiochan someone having and sharing racist views very much IS grounds for dismissal.

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Goawayquickly · 07/06/2020 11:07

I don’t believe for one second you’re seriously asking if this picture is racist.

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MadameMeursault · 07/06/2020 11:08

Comment “racist” on the post and report it. To Facebook and his employer. Cunt.

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MadameMeursault · 07/06/2020 11:09

Who are the 5% saying YABU?

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topcat2014 · 07/06/2020 11:14

In the factory where I work politeness is considered just using the F words in a sentence rather than the F & C words.

Doesn't make it right, and I think we do have a policy on expressing these views 'at work' etc.

However, I don't think we would take any action on a report from something one of our staff said on social media that did not mention the workplace.

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LakieLady · 07/06/2020 11:17

I don't think reporting it to his employers is over the top at all.

If his job involves dealing with the public in any way, his racist attitudes will affect how he treats BAME people. It doesn't make any difference if he's a bin man or a high court judge.

If I was that employer, I'd bloody want to know.

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saraclara · 07/06/2020 11:20

If every racist lost their job, sadly the country wouldn't be able to function.

Also thousands of women and children would land in poverty.

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Chiochan · 07/06/2020 11:21

Its scary isent it how quickly civilised, good people will show they are chomping at the bit to destroy other people when given the chance in a society.
I wonder how many here, if it had suddenly become socially encouraged to show racist attitudes would be enthuasistically denouncing anyone calling for racial justice?
Being the loudest in condemning other people does not make you vertous and it deffinatly does not make you an ally of the oppressed.

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LakieLady · 07/06/2020 11:24

What have his employers got to do with anything though?

I am not aware that employment of people who express racist views is against any laws?


Because someone who is racist is likely to discriminate in their treatment of customers, colleagues, etc.

And because expressing racist views on SM could bring the company they work for into disrepute.

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LakieLady · 07/06/2020 11:27

@Chiochan, keeping quiet never changes anything. Racism will never change if people don't speak out.

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topcat2014 · 07/06/2020 11:28

@LakieLady - I am not being obtuse, and I understand what you say.

My working life has been in quarries, factories etc.

No public tend to go anywhere near these places.

And, yes, the vast majority of workforce in these settings are capable of expressing these type of views.

I am sure most of our customers (factories again) would be similar.

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Chiochan · 07/06/2020 11:49

There is a difference tho between speaking out against racism and trying to get someone fired (if there job is not one that involves providing a public service)

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theDudesmummy · 07/06/2020 11:51

Absolutely speak out. But don't assume your friend shares her father's views. I have a completely racist close family member, who actually revels in their racism, as in when you call them out they say "Yes, I'm racist and I'm proud of it". It doesn't mean I am the same.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 07/06/2020 12:55

@AddressLabel No, but you don’t know unless you challebge them first do you? Why jepordise any potential dependents lives straight away? Challenge them, attempt to educate them. Then depending on how their actions immediately impact the subject concerned escalate. Otherwise you are potentially ruining innocent peoples lives just to make a point/feel good about yourself.

It's not too much of a stretch, is it, to imagine that Derek Chauvin expressed racist views in the past? Or, in the highly unlikely event that he didn't, other officers involved in similar atrocities must have done. And they will have kept their jobs because people made excuses for them, just as you are doing now.

There's nothing 'innocent ' about this man.

Obviously I'm not saying he will also go on to murder a black person. But if recent events have shown us anything, it's that being kind and understanding to overt racists doesn't work. Challenging and explaining doesn't work. The only thing that will work is making it absolutely clear, every single time, that behaviour like this is utterly repugnant and will not be tolerated.

You wouldn't (I hope) make excuses for someone who expressed the view that DV was OK 'if she asked for it ', or who thought the age of consent should be lowered to (say) 10. We need to start taking racism similarly seriously, because we haven't been, and look where we are now.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 07/06/2020 12:57

Also, do you really think the only reason people might report this is to make a point or feel good about themselves?

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AddressLabel · 07/06/2020 13:11

@JesusInTheCabbageVan
You wouldn't (I hope) make excuses for someone who expressed the view that DV was OK 'if she asked for it ', or who thought the age of consent should be lowered to (say) 10. We need to start taking racism similarly seriously, because we haven't been, and look where we are now.
No I wouldn’t make excuses for them, but then I wouldn’t report them to their employer for DV either. I personally think DV is much worse than expressing a racist view. But you think the latter is worth involving their employer over and not the former?

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JacobReesMogadishu · 07/06/2020 13:15

Very racist.

But I agree by itself it doesn’t mean your friends are. I have racist relatives. I do challenge them and have had arguments over it. I distance as much as possible but we are still “friends” on Facebook.

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