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Picture of Bozza and girlfriend wearing sari visiting a Hindu temple.

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longwayoff · 07/12/2019 23:53

Carrie Symonds is wearing a sari. Is this cultural appropriation and unreasonable? Or is it showing politeness to your hosts and therefore reasonable? Which?

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BertrandRussell · 08/12/2019 11:49

“ I think that it was out of politeness.”

I just don’t understand why it’s “polite”.

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ForalltheSaints · 08/12/2019 11:46

I think that it was out of politeness. Though a man who is as immoral as Mr Johnson is seems a hypocrite to even be going into a place of worship.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/12/2019 11:12

Gardai
You do realise that his soon to be ex MIL (Marina Wheeler’s mother) is Sikh.

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Gardai · 08/12/2019 09:09

I saw it as a publicity attempt for him to look all multicultural and his girlfriend was gazing at him lovingly so he didn’t look like the oik he really is imo.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 08/12/2019 08:57

In my experience when non Asian women wear a sari it is appreciated because western dress is deemed in our society the correct way to dress - and a lot of fuss will be made over the woman (weddings/parties etc)

I assume it’s an event she went to

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Clavinova · 08/12/2019 08:56

What annoys me is that it is often just the women that change the way they are dressed and not the men.

Not my comment - I was going to link to Jeremy Corbyn and
John McDonnell looking a bit ridiculous - scroll down;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7046371/Corbyn-says-second-Brexit-referendum-not-disastrous.html

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Clavinova · 08/12/2019 08:52

What annoys me is that it is often just the women that change the way they are dressed and not the men.

Posted too soon!

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Clavinova · 08/12/2019 08:51

I think it must be her mother that is Indian though, as her surname is Wheeler.

Yes, Marina Wheeler's mother is an Indian Sikh - therefore Boris' children with Marina Wheeler are part Indian.




What annoys me is that it is often just the women that change the way they are dressed and not the men.

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noodlenosefraggle · 08/12/2019 08:46

Besides the point, but I’m sure Boris ex wife was part Indian. I think her father was Indian. she is. I think it must be her mother that is Indian though, as her surname is Wheeler. I'm Indian but not hindu. I have only worn a sari once. My sil is white. She wears a sari if shes going to Indian events with my parents. It looks really pretty and I dont thinking cultural appropriation.

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Clavinova · 08/12/2019 08:43

It would have even interesting to see what the other ladies at the temple were wearing.

Must be an evening event - everyone looks dressed up. Priti Patel (also wearing a sari) is in one of the photos as well;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7767951/Tories-scent-victory-just-four-days-go.html

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BertrandRussell · 08/12/2019 08:39

“Bloody Hell. People will bash Boris for anything. He was being polite ffs”

How was Johnson being polite?

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Weescot · 08/12/2019 08:38

Bloody Hell. People will bash Boris for anything. He was being polite ffs

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Foghead · 08/12/2019 08:36

When Indian or Pakistani women wear jeans, skirts and other western clothes, is that cultural appropriation?

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BertrandRussell · 08/12/2019 08:35

It’s not an issue- people can wear eat they like. But I’m objecting to the “oh, wearing a sari is polite and respectful and they love it” narrative. If a sati wearing woman decides to wear western dress to St Cuthbert’s Carol Service it’s up to her. But the parish council aren’t going to think “how polite and respectful of her.” So why should it happen the other way round?

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StoneColdSaidSo · 08/12/2019 08:31

If a woman who normally wears a sari was invited to a Christian church would it be appropriate for her to wear a twin set and pearls insert generic western dress of choice Do you think the other worshippers would consider that to be polite and respectful?

I don’t understand why this would be a problem. My gran usually always wears a sari at home, even though she’s lived in England since the 60s. It’s what she feels most comfortable in. The few times she went to church, couple of times for weddings and once for my choir recital, she wore a dress, similar to what most ladies there were wearing. Why would this be an issue? When my dsis was married, her work friends asked me to help them with Indian outfits because they wanted to be dressed like everyone else there. I honestly don’t see an issue with it.

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AugustL · 08/12/2019 08:28

*I meant to type "possible cultural appropriation" not "possible cultural appropriate "

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BertrandRussell · 08/12/2019 07:50

“ If she was at an event where most women were in saris then she would have been appropriately dressed.”

Would she? Surely an equivalent level of formality in western dress would have been appropriate? If a woman who normally wears a sari was invited to a Christian church would it be appropriate for her to wear a twin set and pearls [insert generic western dress of choice]? Do you think the other worshippers would consider that to be polite and respectful?

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NoineNoine · 08/12/2019 07:50

Different temples have different rules. Generally anything slightly modest will do, but it's just nice to wear a Saree, and based on the pictures the other ladies were equally dressed up, so why not? It's not a religious garment - Muslims and Christians in the subcontinent wear it too.

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Cremebrule · 08/12/2019 07:40

It would have even interesting to see what the other ladies at the temple were wearing. If most people were in jeans etc and she was in a sari, it would have been a bit odd. If she was at an event where most women were in saris then she would have been appropriately dressed. It’s all context dependent really.

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Tellmetruth4 · 08/12/2019 07:28

It’s not cultural appropriation, however, it’s a cynical attempt to appeal to Modi supporters.

I’m actually pissed off that the Torys are using divisions in others countries to cause divisions in this one. It also looks like they believe British Asian loyalty is really to India.

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StoneColdSaidSo · 08/12/2019 07:26

Agree it’s a publicity stunt. I’m Hindu and, unless it’s a wedding, have never worn a sari to the temple. Mostly leggings/jeans and a top. I won’t wear a short dress out of respect but you definitely don’t need to wear Indian clothes.

Besides the point, but I’m sure Boris ex wife was part Indian. I think her father was Indian.

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questions10000 · 08/12/2019 07:17

patronising publicity stunt

Yes, patronising and somewhat ignorant.

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questions10000 · 08/12/2019 07:15

Not cultural appropriation at all but totally unnecessary.

^ this

I have been to a temple multiple times and as long as what you are wearing is not revealing and is fairly formal, there is really no need to wear a sari. I wouldn’t say it was cultural appropriation, but IMO rather unnecessary and somewhat vacuous. Probably more to do with Johnson wanting to erase his post box comments and it would be interesting to see what she would wear to a mosque.

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BertrandRussell · 08/12/2019 07:15

I don’t think it’s cultural appropriation. I do think it’s a patronising publicity stunt.

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SymphonyofShadows · 08/12/2019 07:10

I don’t know if it cultural appropriation or not, but I can’t stand this blatant touting around of his OW, moving her into Downing St and his bravado about his sleazy life in general.

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