To celebrate Yaniv losing Yaniv's case?

[ChristaMSieland]

Comprehensively.

The court found that Yaniv "engaged in improper conduct, filed complaints for improper purposes" and that Yaniv's testimony was "disingenuous and self-serving" as well as "evasive and argumentative and contradicted herself while giving evidence".

[SchadenfiendeUnmortified]

And this is our daughters being pushed into this brutal transitioning. It's shocking how young some of these girls are.

And yet there doesn't seem to be pressure on any of the adult men who sell-ID as women to have surgery to relieve them of their genitals. It seems that comparatively few men actually feel that they need to modify their bodies. Whereas many, many women do.

[ArnoldWhatshisknickers]

But surely such deep and large removal of skin is dangerous leaving the person open to infection

Yes it is and yes it does. The complication rates from these surgeries are horrendous. It is the norm for things to go wrong.

The photos on thread are accurate. A large area of flesh is taken from a forearm, or thigh then rolled up into something that is nothing whatsoever like a penis and attached to the pubis mons. Around 1 in 20 ties it falls off completely and in other cases parts of it rot due to lack of blood supply. The area the flesh has been removed from then requires a skin graft from yet another part of the body (I think the better healed leg shot on thread is this skin graft). All these surgical sites are open to infection and at the end of it the nothing like a penis thing serves no purpose.

I am of the view that these surgeries should be banned outright for adults as well as children. They are barbaric.

[SchadenfiendeUnmortified]

I've just looked Prodigal.

You are right. They are grim.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

Look for other pics, is all I can say. It is grim and it is happening.

[CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook]

But surely such deep and large removal of skin is dangerous leaving the person open to infection. It is this which also kills some burn victims. Surely at least such a deep cut would not be open as in the arm shot?

Regardless it's grim and completely unethical.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

The pictures are real. There are lots of similar photos, if you look. You can't make the pseudo penis with just the thin top layer of skin, they take a whole section going multiple layers down, which is why the arm or leg looks like that afterwards.

[QuimReaper]

Those pictures surely can't be real, or at least as Shaden says, not what they say they are. The double mastectomy one looks like a botched job, but mastectomies happen the same whatever the reasons, so that's not really trans-elated.

[Pretzelcoatl]

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

The scope of the hearing was whether the plaintiff was being discriminated against because of their “gender”, which would violate the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. There are no rights for businesses in the way you are describing.

This has been a solid case though, because now that the verdict has been established, subsequent similar claims will have to overcome this ruling.

[jenthelibrarian]

As an older, and now post-menopausal, woman I am wondering what Yaniv and all the others are going to do as they age.
Claim to be suffering from hot flushes, and all the other joys of menopause?
Because: fuck that noise

[Qcng]

Yaniv's conduct has frequently made me lose the will to live, so I'm overjoyed with this outcome.

But, as PP have said, there are still many more fronts.

[SchadenfiendeUnmortified]

Is that like the female eunuch?

Not quite - she had more balls.

[SchadenfiendeUnmortified]

[LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD]

Is that like the female eunuch?

[PickAChew]

Bollocks to the 'female scrotum'.

Need that on a t-shirt.

[LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD]

I’m sure someone with the relevant knowledge will be along to say if they look genuine or not. I can’t look too close as they make my skin go all weird.

[SchadenfiendeUnmortified]

Truly not intending to be rude, but are those photos completely legitimate and not photo shopped in any way?

I think all of the photos are legitimate - but I'm not so sure that the first two (at least) are what they claim to be. I do believe that the final one could be the results of a double mastectomy, but surely no phalloplasty would require the radical tissue and skin excision shown here, to construct a penis?

If it were any other type of body dysmorphia (eg anorexia) there is no way that the medical profession, or the family would be encouraging the sufferer - can you imagine telling an anorexic "Yes - you are grossly obese. Eat as little as you like - here, we'll help you by giving you appetite suppressant drugs and stomach-reducing surgery". Of course they wouldn't!

So many of our children and young people, instead of being offered the counselling it seems they need (even if they struggle against it), are being rushed into surgery, hormone treatment etc - and from what I've read online, many of them are under the impression that they will actually change sex, that the transition will be simple and comparatively painless, that if they feel they've made a mistake at some time in the future, than they will be able to "change back" . . .

None of these things is true.

[CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook]

Truly not intending to be rude, but are those photos completely legitimate and not photo shopped in any way?

They are completely shocking, and if legitimate, utterly appalling. Children should be shown these in advance of any decisions to alter their bodies. I suspect the scarring and depressions from tissue loss will remain for life

I am truly apalled. The dereliction of professional medical responsibility is uncounscionable.

[LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD]

Also her reported death penalty supposedly carried out on a 14 year old boy for sodomy - was actually a 14 year old paedophile discharged for the raped a 6-year-old.

The BBC interviewer must have done a double-take when they saw the content of the book and questioned their understanding. I know I did ... 'she said whaaaaa???'

[BarrenFieldofFucks]

Soooooo reasonable OP

[VeryLittleOwl]

She completely misunderstood some 19th century legal terms and that meant the whole premise the book was based on was wrong.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50153743

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

Wolf is pretty woke. What has she said to offend the angry kids?

[LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD]

My my, such days...

from BBC news...
The US publisher of a new book by Naomi Wolf has cancelled its release after accuracy concerns were raised. (by a three year old child perhaps?)

[GunpowderGelatine]

*scrotum not rotund 😂

[GunpowderGelatine]

YANBU. Brilliant step forward for ACTUAL women. You know, the ones without a rotund who shouldn't have to touch male genitalia because a Brazilian is a human right but not being sexually harassed isn't.

Yaniv is an odious foil little creep, a compulsive liar and entirely dangerous and deluded. The sooner he crawls away the better.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

I almost wish for their own safety that young transmen were being encouraged to go the "no need for medical transition, your body is whatever you say it is" route, just to avoid what we see in the photos above. That's not happening nearly a much as it is the other way around, though, and I think the reasons why are obvious. Which sex is taught to hate their own bodies, and for which sex does the resulting distress go into overdrive when puberty kicks in?

I can't see the above photos as anything other than the result of deep hatred and fear of one's own body created by a misogynistic society and weaponized by a movement that wants more "trans kids" as a way to make itself look less sexually motivated.