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AIBU?

To be angry at my mum?

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CookingMomma · 23/01/2019 13:56

She’s decided to move to Australia, we’re in the UK.

She’s just decided to go. She’s almost 60, single and reckons she can work for a year out there then retire.

She’s leaving behind me, my brother and my DD aged 3.

My brother has ASD and bipolar tendencies; he also has a blood disorder. He lives with my mum and she is his carer. He wouldn’t get an Australian visa, so her plan was to leave him in her flat. He’s never lived independently, he can cook and feed himself, but he can’t budget very well despite being taught on multiple occasions, he regularly runs up debts from over spending on video games, he works but needs to be reminded to shower or get a haircut reminders on his phone/calendar aren’t enough. She is also expecting me to “keep an eye on him”.

I am a single mother to a 3 year old DD, who has a disability of her own. I have her 85% of the time, do all of her care, all of her appointments, all of the Nursery runs. I do work in a very flexible role which allows me to work from home as and when I need to, but I can’t care for my brother. Plus I rely on my mum to have DD once a month to give me a break – you know so I can have more than 1 glass of wine – She offered this when I split with Ex and it’s not expected but it is nice to have a break and not wake up at 6am.

There’s also her elderly dad. I do my bit where I can but the care is shared mainly between my mum and her two sisters. Her sisters both work and fit care for granddad around their work. She also may never see him again.

I cannot go with her. I would love to but my support network is here, plus I know Ex doesn’t have DD much but I’d be devastated if he moved abroad with DD thus preventing me seeing her as often so I’d never do that to him. And I don’t want to spend all my holidays abroad in Australia, I haven’t even taken DD abroad yet so don’t know how she’d cope.

And my brother may never be able to visit her either as he doesn’t fly well and due to his ASD can’t fly alone, no way am I coping with a disabled 3 year old and autistic brother on a flight alone.

She’s apparently got it all planned out. Will go and live with a cousin of hers whose out there, apparently they’ve been talking about it loads. She’s going to be able to come back once every 2 years to visit.

I asked what happens if DBro loses the roof over his head as he can’t cope, she just said we needed to fend for ourselves now, and surely I’d not let my brother be homeless. I pointed out I am tight for space myself as I have a small 2 bed house which adapted for a wheelchair, she said he’d have to learn to sleep on the sofa then. I said what about her dad, and she says he wants her to be happy. What about your sisters and his care? They’d manage.

AIBU to irrationally angry that she just wants to up and leave me to deal with everything? I consider myself to be strong and independent but I can’t imagine just upping and leaving without a thought for anyone or anything else. She also has two cats who haven’t been factored into her plans. I’m all for fresh starts, but think you can have that without going to the other side of the world away from your family and friends - I know he cousins family too but she hasn't seen him since they were teenagers as he moved to oz at 18.

I’m not going to talk her out of it, but will be there to say “I told you so” when it all goes wrong.

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DontCallMeCharlotte · 23/01/2019 14:48

The poor woman must be at the end of her tether caught between a semi-dependent father and son. She must feel her whole self has been completed subverted and she's just a handmaiden for her needy family (I hasten to add, I'm not including you in the needy bracket OP - one day a month is hardly a massive commitment). No wonder she wants to abdicate her responsibilities, walk (fly) away and never look back.

In the unlikely event that her fantasy actually materialises, just make it clear where you stand and what you will and won't commit to.

(could brother move in with grandfather?).

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BeanTownNancy · 23/01/2019 14:50

With that attitude I'm not surprised she's going! Your children are your responsibility

Unless you're OP's DM of course, in which case your children are someone else's responsibility.

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yearinyearout · 23/01/2019 14:51

Your mum can’t “just go and live in Australia”. People have to jump through hoops to emigrate there. As previous posters have said it is difficult to do more than work for a year (like gap year students do). I have relatives who got a 4 year visa. They were about your mums age and had to prove they were financially self sufficient. They were allowed to go because their daughter was there, but even then they didn’t get their visa renewed after 4 years and had to move back out, this was after setting up a business/employing local people/contributing to the economy. If your mum seriously thinks she will be allowed to work for a year and retire there she’s in cloud cuckoo land.

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CarolDanvers · 23/01/2019 14:52

Indeed @BeanTownNancy.

There's a thread running at the moment about ridiculous advice given on MN...this thread is what the mean isn't it?

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teagivesphoebethetrots · 23/01/2019 14:53

personally I don`t think it will materialise, unless its in the form of a long holiday. When did she last have a proper break away?

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Italiangreyhound · 23/01/2019 14:54

CookingMomma this sounds tough for you and your mum.

Your granddad is not your responsibility nor is he your mum's responsibility. If your two aunts cannot manage then they will need to find an alternative solution. Please do not make your mum feel guilty about leaving your granddad. She could have done this at any other time but has stayed in the UK and been his support. She should be free to live her life, IMHO.

Your daughter's dad can help with your daughter so the person I would be most concerned for is your brother.

Please see if you can find any charity that helps work with people with disabilities to see what options are there. Your brother may be willing to go into sheltered housing etc if he knows it will be easier for him.

As others have said it may not be possible for your mum to work abroad and she may need to change her plans. She might even choose to retire abroad, and that may or may not be possible. I think as much as possible work with your mum on finding solutions for your brother than can happen now while your mum is here.

You have seen that being the strong one, the person people go to, has left your mum possibly burnt out. So you can choose now, not to go down that route. Make sure your ex takes his full responsibility (if he is safe to do this) and financial responsibility for your (shared) child.

Your granddad has three daughters and it is not unfair for your mum to go abroad and leave the other two with responsibilities especially if she has been the strong one for many years.

Good luck.

Thanks

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CookingMomma · 23/01/2019 14:55

She goes away once a year for a week usually. She last went in July.

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MadMum101 · 23/01/2019 14:56

YANBU at all. It is certainly not 'selfish' to be annoyed that your mother is basically dumping her vulnerable, dependent son on you, and probably expects you to provide care for your elderly grandfather.

As a responsible person, if she was at the end of her tether, she should have forced your brother to source an independent living situation before making plans to skip off to the other side of the world. She could have done that by refusing to be his carer. This was her responsibility, and she should have done it long ago. She has made him dependent on her and has failed him.

I would inform SS that she is his registered carer and is going to be leaving him ASAP.

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ACurlyWurly · 23/01/2019 15:00

Regardless of how you feel about her going I personally feel you need to put it to one side and help her to organise it with a possibility she will leave.
You can tell her you will be heartbroken if she leaves but you understand why she wants to go.
Help her look into visas and be supportive, speak to her about who will pick up the slack and look at viable options as you will not be able to do it and be there for her.
If she cant get a visa at least other aspects will be sorted and support will be in place for your DB. She will know you supported her and that will help with how she copes with the disappointment.

If she does get a visa, you will be the one that helped her to live her life to the full.
Yes you will miss her and it will be hard letting her go but she would support you if you had the same dream.

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FissionChips · 23/01/2019 15:02

I just think she's not thinking about everyone else in all this

Why should she? She’s spent (wasted really) her life caring for others, it’s about time she looked out for her own well-being. She’s probably not got many healthy years agree of her left, she should spend them enjoying herself and doing what she wants.

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teagivesphoebethetrots · 23/01/2019 15:04

well put curly wurly. Just a thought: for now to giver her a break and you. what about once a month she has your dd, the next month you allow you mum a "weekend off", even if its just you swap homes!

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diddl · 23/01/2019 15:05

"Unless you're OP's DM of course, in which case your children are someone else's responsibility."

Op's mum's children are adults.

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Ladyoftheloch · 23/01/2019 15:06

What would have happened to your brother if your mum had died? Whether she goes to Australia or not, this could be a useful chance to put a long term plan in place for him. Have the council / social services ever been contacted to see if he is entitled to any support?

I totally appreciate your frustration, but it also sounds like things couldn’t have gone on forever as they were anyway. This gives you a chance to all work together to find a solution before it’s a crisis.

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teagivesphoebethetrots · 23/01/2019 15:07

a holiday once a year is probably not enough ? does she need a weekend off a bit more often?

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CarolDanvers · 23/01/2019 15:10

Op's mum's children are adults.

One of whom is disabled and still has care needs.

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thecatsthecats · 23/01/2019 15:10

Actually, it kind of does sound like the only ay she can change her life and rest is if she goes to the other side of the world.

I'm not going to say that the decisions themselves aren't selfish, but look at her life as a whole, and I think you'd struggle to say she hasn't done her share of caring for other people.

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RomanyRoots · 23/01/2019 15:14

I doubt she'll get in too, OP.
A friend went but she was in her thirties (just) and she had something to offer.
It's not so easy and I thought there was an age limit too.

Just tell her you aren't prepared to keep an eye on your db as he obviously needs more than this and you aren't able or willing to be his carer.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 23/01/2019 15:16

she should spend them enjoying herself and doing what she wants.

And to hell with her disabled son? Nice. Glad I am not your child.

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Rachelle3211 · 23/01/2019 15:17

A week away is not enough. You actually have more of a break with your dd then she does with her ds, and she does childcare for you as well. Plus she's been doing this for decades. She is likely sick and tired of looking after everyone. Your db needs to live somewhere else. Your mom won't live forever and he can't expect her to always look after him. She needs extra help. Does anyone ever think of her and her stress levels? It sounds like everyone around her is only thinking about what she can do for the.

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SillySallySingsSongs · 23/01/2019 15:20

Itend to use Friday to catch up with work, Saturday to try and get some time to myself/with friends and then she's back early Sunday.

Does your DM ever get a day to herself?

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FissionChips · 23/01/2019 15:25

And to hell with her disabled son? Nice. Glad I am not your child

Well, the op could step up or they could get him into supported living.

What do you think will happen when she dies?

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Jaxhog · 23/01/2019 15:26

Does your DM ever get a day to herself?

My thought too. How about someone offering to look after your Bro once a month? Or help her to find alternative long term care? Maybe she spends so much time looking after other people that she doesn't have time to do this.

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teagivesphoebethetrots · 23/01/2019 15:30

i think op and her mum need to take turns in some way to get "me time". 1 week a year is no way enough!!!!

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mbosnz · 23/01/2019 15:33

"Your children are your responsibility"

Yes. Once you have your children, they are YOUR responsibility. If you have a child that will be dependent on you or need extra help for their entire life, then it's up to YOU to sort that out, and deal with it, not just blithely decide you've had enough and shuff the responsibility off onto your other offspring - who have every right to have their own family and prioritise their children's needs.

But I reckon she'll be pushing the proverbial uphill if she thinks she can just jump on a plane and emigrate to Australia.

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AmIRightOrAMeringue · 23/01/2019 15:35

Hi OP going against the grain here but I'd be angry as well as worried for the future. All the people saying she is entitled to some me time after spending her life caring for others. Yes she is. But not at her child's expense! She's basically said if the brother doesn't cope then he can go live with the OP. I can't imagine having a child that needed care for ever but I think most parents in that position would agree it's a bit harsh to suddenly wash your hands of them and pass the responsibility onto your other child who also has dependents.

It does sound like she is struggling so maybe you could offer to help more with your brother or look into different living options for him. But you need to make it clear to her that he isn't going to live with you

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