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AIBU?

to suggest friend supervises her own kids?

94 replies

Taubenpost · 18/12/2017 00:19

People have different parenting styles. I completely get that. However, there is "letting kids make their own mistakes" and there is being irreponsible and ruining other people's stuff.

Some months back I offered a friend fruit from our garden. She enthusiastically said yes. We were away when it was ripe, so I explained carefully which trees it was (she wouldn't necessarily have found them easily otherwise) and that other plants in the same area were delicate/ needed not to be trampled/ had poisonous fruit and leaves. She said "oh I'll send the kids in then". I referred her back to what I had said about delicate/poisonous plants, and said it would be better if she could pick the fruit herself, as I was not comfortable with unsupervised 8 & 10 year olds potentially picking the wrong things.

Got home to find delicate plants trashed, branches ripped off, fruits picked unripe & thrown on the ground, saplings pulled out of the ground. Fruit trees with ripe fruit were also pretty trashed, all the fruit taken and branches ripped off and thrown on the ground.

Saw friend, mentioned the garden was in need of a bit of TLC. She said "yeah the kids had a great time" and had apparently sent them in to play by themselves on several days. Hmm Apparently it takes a village to raise a child (she loves this phrase) so sending her kids to play in our garden when we are away is appropriate...

Since then she has been making digs repeatedly about me being a helicopter parent and how her kids are independent learners, fearless, brave, inquisitive, etc while my DS is scared of other people, can't walk or talk yet because I mollycoddle him.

FFS. DS is normal, he's 1. Her kids are indeed fearless, but inappropriately so in the context of trashing our garden with zero supervision. GRRR.

Or am I uptight and denying her children their right to a childhood?

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my2bundles · 18/12/2017 10:57

Ruthmumkath, kids of that age breaking branches in someone else's garden and destroying plants is not kids being kids, it's called being disrespectful. My 10 year ld son is adventurous, loves to climb, lovs outdoor adventurous play but would never destroy in the way these boys have. OP I'm sorry this happened to you.

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montenana · 18/12/2017 10:57

sorry but you're acting like a big of a mug.
Stand up for yourself!

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PricillaQueenOfTheDesert · 18/12/2017 11:07

Butterymuffin on Page one says all there is too say and says it perfectly. Go with this.

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tumblrpigeon · 18/12/2017 11:12

I’m envious of your garden. It sounds fab.

Your friend is not so nice

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Ghostontoast · 18/12/2017 11:17

No good deed goes unpunished!

Those little blighters will be back in your garden helping themselves to fruit/trampling on plants for ever more, even if you break off the friendship/ban them because they are “ free-spirits”.

I’m curious as to what the poisonous plants are - something deadly like monkshood or deadly nightshade?

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BluthsFrozenBananas · 18/12/2017 11:27

It’ll be interesting to see in a few years time what kind of teenagers these ‘brave and fearless’ children grow into.

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RandyMarsh · 18/12/2017 11:27

She is a dick.

I also know people like this. They would refer to themselves as laid back parents. The reality is that they are lazy twats and their children are feral, have no respect for anything.

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TheHungryDonkey · 18/12/2017 11:39

A lovely border of rue ought to solve any future issues.

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BastardGoDarkly · 18/12/2017 11:49

Another one here who thinks Butterys response is perfect.

My ten year old is 'spirited' Grin but wouldn't dream of leaving carnage in someone else's garden.

Let's face it, she just couldn't be arsed going with them could she?

Cheeky cah.

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user1497357411 · 18/12/2017 12:01

yes, it is good that children are independent, but first you show them how to do things independently. You don't just let them loose and hope for the best.

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MillennialFalcon · 18/12/2017 12:38

YANBU to suggest she supervise her children but you've already tried that approach and look how well it went! You told her you weren't comfortable with her letting her children pick fruit unsupervised in your garden but she still let them regularly play there unsupervised, causing damage. She also regularly disparages your parenting and implies it's adversely affected your son. She's not your friend, she doesn't care about your feelings or boundaries. What does she contribute? Consider cutting her off.

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Pennywhistle · 18/12/2017 12:46

Ruthsmum you think breaking branches, trampling plants, ripping up saplings and wasting unripe fruit in someone else’s garden is just “kids being kids?”

ShockConfused

It’s really, really not.

And the idea that the OP can’t be upset about a friend’s kids wanton destruction of her property on the off chance that her own child also turns out to be a spoiled brat in 9 years time is quite ridiculous.

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TalkinBoutWhat · 18/12/2017 12:49

Next time she says you're denying your child the right to grow up 'spirited' (or whatever phrase she wants to use) just say "Like yours? No thank you."

The message will be received loud and clear.

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TitaniasCloset · 18/12/2017 12:54

I'd go with Butterymuffins response, don't worry about being rude you don't need her in your life.

I had a pack of feral children trash my garden once, when I had just moved in, my tree has never been the same and the mum never apologised for it. This was 20 years ago and I'm still angry on behalf of my tree Smile

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HeebieJeebies456 · 18/12/2017 13:13

i hope you keep your garden locked so she/feral kids can't get access?

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Evilstepmum01 · 18/12/2017 13:22

This is the reason I now have a lock on my gate, neighbours kids came into garden to 'play'. We came back to find our guardrabbit loose (and nippy) and toys everywhere. But its ok, they were just being boys.
I'm sorry for your lovely garden, it sounds beautiful. Or it was.
Be clear the children are not welcome in your garden, full stop. And lock your gate. Phase out friend, she doesnt respect you, your property or how you raise your child.
Big padlock!

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onalongsabbatical · 18/12/2017 13:28

Just to pick up on the village to raise a child aspect - if you're part of her village that she wants helping her raise her children, you have right to discipline the children, right? Grin
But I wouldn't bother with her, and I'd keep the children locked out of my garden at all times.

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Eatalot · 18/12/2017 13:37

Jesus im due to give birth in a week. Dd1 is 10 what the fuck is helicopter parent? I feel old and out of touch with all these terms. I read up on attachment pareting and that was enough. Dd1 was taught respect and disciplined and would much rather climb a tree or go surfing with dh than hide indoors. I think some of these terms are used to justify lazy ass parents.

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Eatalot · 18/12/2017 13:39

Ps bill the crazy bitch for the damage.

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ladystarkers · 18/12/2017 13:47

I had a couple of ‘friends’ like this whose kids trashed my house while they sat chatting. When mentioned they did not give a shit. Hence to say none were invited back.

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DB24 · 18/12/2017 13:54

Just be grateful she's not your sister (bitter). She's a 'friend', you need to make an ex friend. Problem solved.

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timeisnotaline · 18/12/2017 14:00

Ditch her. Get a lock for your gate. And if you get into a discussion say sweetly it takes a village implies supervision, running wild is entirely different.

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expatinscotland · 19/12/2017 17:55

Get rid of her! Good god, why have you put up with this? She's a pisstaking knob. Get a lock for your garden. Ditch her. 'Tired of your feral brats and your endless digs at me. Your kids destroyed my garden. And all you do is put me down. Get lost!'

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wibblywobblywoo · 19/12/2017 18:10

Tired of your feral brats and your endless digs at me. Your kids destroyed my garden. And all you do is put me down. Get lost!'

Please say that to her OP, pleeeeeeeaaaase! Grin

Seriously, you need better friends, start being a bit more choosy about who gets your time, your friendship and your fruit!

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gillybeanz · 19/12/2017 18:11

Your only problem seems to be using the term friends to loosley.
These people aren't your friends, I'd pick people who were at least on my wave length.
Let her know if she asks, tell her about her bad parenting, allowing children to ruin other people's possessions.

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