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AIBU?

To wonder how many people have CFS/ME?

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millionsmissing · 30/10/2017 16:15

Recently a close family member has been diagnosed with ME. It's an awful illness that is stealing her youth.

She doesn't speak about it because of the stigma and lack of any available treatment or research into possible treatment.

She has resigned herself to having to live with this condition, probably for ever. She went from being active, fit and doing a job she loved to being unable to read, drive, hold a conversation without losing the thread of what she was saying. This happened, quite literally, overnight.

When she was first diagnosed she learned that many people with this condition find themselves so ill they are unable to get out of bed for years. She is lucky in that she is not as ill as many people are. But she doesn't know if she will ever again be able to hold down any full-time job, let alone one that allows her to use the skills she has worked hard to develop.

It's an invisible illness.
No-one sees her when she is feeling really unwell. She stays in her room, with the lights dimmed, and the heating on, whatever the weather, wearing the big jacket she no longer needs for mountaineering. She has all the kit for this illness, hats, gloves, down jackets and sleeping bags - she never thought they would be used for this.

Most people have no idea how ill she is, she only sees them when she is well enough to power through on adrenaline.
She doesn't look ill. People are constantly telling her how glad they are she is better when she is well enough to socialise. She has stopped telling them she isn't because they can see for themselves that she looks fine and so they assume she is either lazy or a hypochondriac.

But the energy used on not looking ill costs her days as she recovers enough energy to function again. She often finds herself without the energy to stand up for long enough to have a shower.

So AIBU to wonder how many others suffer from this condition and to be outraged that we are not researching like crazy to find the biomedical causes of this illness that is stealing the lives of so many?

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PerkingFaintly · 30/10/2017 17:23

My GP thinks Multiple Sclerosis is largely psychosomatic as well. Not too good on cause and effect, that one...

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furlinedsheepskinjacket · 30/10/2017 17:23

what the hell is wrong that these 250k people aren't recovering then?

:)

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ladystarkers · 30/10/2017 17:25

Me

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PerkingFaintly · 30/10/2017 17:25

Is that 250 k people at any one time? Rather than a fixed set of people?

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millionsmissing · 30/10/2017 17:25

2014newme where are those figures from?
Because from what I can see no-one will have the first clue if or when she recovers as she isn't getting any treatment. She's just getting on with her life as far as she can.

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Misspilly88 · 30/10/2017 17:27

As I predicted, flamed. I'll just leave it at this...theres a huge difference between pushing on and trying to live the same life and paint a smile on your face (which is not likely to help 1 bit) and not accepting that you're going to suffer for the rest of your life). I really hope anyone suffering recovers soon.

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QueenStreaky · 30/10/2017 17:29

Mama That's exactly it! You learn about your body and how CFS affects it, then you notice differences and that can be the first sign of recovery. I had a really nasty flu about 18 months ago - the sort that reminds you that people actually die from it - and I've often wondered if it somehow kick-started my immune system into working more efficiently.

Ten years ago I used to literally fall asleep in my dinner and everything was hard. I slept much of each day or at very least had to nap in between jobs. Never did housework, cooked very little - all the energy I had went into my son (he has ASD/ADHD and that was challenging for all of us). I never believed I'd get well again even with a 'positive mindset' - I do agree that it's hard to be that forward thinking when you feel so crap. But now I have more energy than I've ever had. I hike twice a week, up to ten miles. I swim 3-4 times and use Wii Fit in between. And I put in full days, cooking and doing voluntary work. Ten years ago that looked utterly impossible, a pipedream. But it IS possible to recover fully, even when we feel we're at our worst. I just wouldn't want anyone to think that CFS/ME is always a life sentence because it's just not true.

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ladystarkers · 30/10/2017 17:29

I’ve just recently accepted I have it after diagnosis 18 monthd ago!

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millionsmissing · 30/10/2017 17:30

misshannah and mama that sounds really tough for each of you.

I just can't understand how we managed to crack Zika in a few short months and this is still being thought of a "Yuppy Flu" . As if it's a go-getter's version of "man-flu" i.e. not a real illness but just an excuse to lay around, demand to be waited on and feel sorry for yourself.

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ladystarkers · 30/10/2017 17:31

I certianly haven’t given up but am not beating myself up for not being enough anymore.

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WoodYouBeHappy · 30/10/2017 17:36

Me, me, me! I have it, I'm one of those housebound and out of sight Sad. Mostly bed bound for 9 months each year.

SO much I want to say, but being on MN for too long makes me crash. And I just lost all my spoons from waving Grin

Off for a rest. millionsmissing Thank you for posting this. Flowers for you and your friend.

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millionsmissing · 30/10/2017 17:39

Wow - I wonder if it was the flu that did it QueenStreaky. It must feel fabulous to have your energy back.

Missspilly I wasn't trying to flame you. I agree that being positive can be a real boost when life's looking less hopeful. But I also know that the NHS guidelines suggesting CBT and an exercise programme caused some people to assume that this illness was some kind of a mental health issue or worse still a choice that my family member was making. If only it were just a case of putting on a brave face, trying harder, getting out more and getting over herself!!! Wouldn't that be marvellous?

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Mamamagellanic · 30/10/2017 17:41

Queen, you’ve given me the boost I needed today. It’s been a bad couple of weeks.

When I’m bad everything is such an effort. As soon as the fog clears a little I scurry around making plans thinking this is it! And overdo it (doing pleasant things, things I miss, nothing adventurous!) and I’m back in that place of no energy, no words, no thought process.

All I can do is hope. I hope beyond hope that my immune system will figure this out for itself as long as I support it. I’ve tried to go 100% gluten and dairy free but it’s really difficult when my diet is so limited (food crashes are not worth it) and I’ve got DD to look after. Sometimes I need to eat QUICK.

I’d love to get my life back. I could happily live without the busy social life, alcohol and even chocolate if it meant I could do a full day of normal life with DD!

My immune system has let a virus take hold for a week and turn into bronchitis, that would suggest it let its defences down. I’m slowly getting better from it rather than CFS kicking in and it being gone overnight. I could even do a few more years if it meant I’d recover!

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millionsmissing · 30/10/2017 17:43

Flowers Flowers Flowers Flowers
CakeCakeCake
Brew
WoodYouBeHappy

and lots of waving back Grin thank you for your spoons. I know how precious they are Sad

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outnumbered4 · 30/10/2017 17:43

My eldest daughter has it, diagnosed at 8 Sad she missed nearly 3 years of primary school, 1 year completely then next 2 she started going in for hour sessions a couple of times a week building up slowly. She is nearly 13 now and is doing really well. Full time at secondary school Grin

She tires quickly still and doesn't take part in p.e or any strenuous physical activities at school (we tried but it knocked her back a lot) so that will hopefully come with time.

It is a horrible horrible thing, I live in fear of her going back to how she was at her worst, but she has been very brave and also I think very lucky to have to support she has from her doctors and physios and also schools. I know that doesn't always happen. Flowers flowers for your family member.

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furlinedsheepskinjacket · 30/10/2017 17:44

waving back wood - from bed x sending a hug to all of you out there :)

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Mamamagellanic · 30/10/2017 17:47

Millions, when did your relative get diagnosed? CFS has evolved for me. I used to be in a lot more pain, with time either my receptors calmed down or I learned how to control it so things can improve. I’m less tired than I was, the fatigue is there but the sleepiness isn’t as bad. My memory is worse though. Everyone is different but it does tend to change as time goes on.

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girlsyearapart · 30/10/2017 17:50

Wow perking your gp sounds like a charmer Hmm

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QueenStreaky · 30/10/2017 17:52

Mama That's pretty much how I was when my son was young. There's no way I could have made much progress at that time because there was just too much that HAD to be done, just to keep him going - there wasn't any space for myself, even to take time out. Pacing was impossible because every day was a crisis. I didn't start my recovery until he was old enough to be left for a while (we home educated too - long story, no choice, but it worked to our advantage for both of us because we could both rest if we needed it). It's taken several years, lots of steps backwards, but I think if we expect that recovery won't be a steady, upward curve then we don't get so knocked back and disheartened by those slips. Plus, the course I did prepared me for those times and I knew I had an emergency plan to get myself back on track.

I hope things do improve for you, and for all of us on this thread. I have lots of friends who've had this illness for several years and it's robbed them of huge chunks of their lives - time that they'll never get back. It's a cruel condition and made worse by the lack of understanding from outsiders. I guess that's why people like us band together for mutual support, because we don't get much of it elsewhere.

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LoniceraJaponica · 30/10/2017 17:59

DD (17) is being treated for it. The GP referred her pretty quickly and she is being seen by CFS specialists. The first CFS doctor said that they wouldn't diagnose it (ie give it the label) but treat her as if she did have it.

So far she has done a diary and is trying to pace herself. One of the key things she has been told is to rest regularly, but not to go to sleep the minute she gets home from school. This doesn't always work. She sometimes crashes in lessons as well.

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Battyoldbat · 30/10/2017 18:20

I have pernicious anaemia (B12 deficiency) and it can often be misdiagnosed for years as CFS. I would urge anyone with cfs to ensure they’ve had their B12 level checked and to make sure it’s 400 or over - it’s often judged as ok as low as 120 - that’s really not ok!
Unlike cfs, pernicious anaemia has a simple easy treatment (although getting adequate levels can be hard) so it really is worth checking.

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PerkingFaintly · 30/10/2017 18:22

girlsyearsapart, yep, he's a twat in many diverse ways.

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Floralnomad · 30/10/2017 18:35

My dd was under a paediatrician for a different problem and he didn’t believe in CFS . When dd was 15 at a routine appt ( we were under Kings for the CFS) he actually told her to stop being a burden on me . I could happily have killed him , needless to say we never saw him again .

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furlinedsheepskinjacket · 30/10/2017 18:40

oh i've seen loads of those over the years.sigh.

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poppym12 · 30/10/2017 18:43

It's a total and utter arsehole. I was first diagnosed with 'yuppy flu' in the late 80s. I recovered enough to live a bit and work normal hours through the 90s then it came back with a vengeance following a serious accident 12 years ago. I actually went out to lunch yesterday - 3 whole hours of loveliness. The next time I will probably be fully coherent and able to shower properly and wash my hair will be around Thursday. Can't chuffing wait Angry. That few hours of appearing to be normal yesterday has taken its toll. Yet again.

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