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Termination of pregnancy at 24 weeks due to heart defect

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Lifehasitsproblems · 14/10/2017 22:55

I live with this every day. 13 years ago at my 20 week scan I was told there was an echo on the baby's heart but that there was nothing to worry about. I had a three year old boy at the time and this was a much wanted second child. My gp suggested going for a private scan at the fetal medical centre to get a better understanding of what was happening. I was told that the baby, a boy, had transposition of the great arteries. In the womb he would be fine because he was receiving all the oxygen he needed from the umbilical chord but when he was born he would need key hole surgery followed by open heart surgery followed by regular further operation(s) on his heart to deal with scar tissue etc. He had a 59% chance of living to age 16. There was no guarantee of the quality of life he would have assuming he lived to 16 and beyond.

At 24 weeks (it took almost four weeks to get the appointment for the private scan and i needed a few days to make the decision) on Mothers Day, as it happened, I was taken for a final scan where they injected the baby's heart to stop it then induced me so that I gave birth.

The baby was tiny but perfectly formed to look at. We gave him a name and dressed him and ultimately we buried him.

My son who was three at the time vaguely remembers the little brother he lost. One of the biggest factors in making the decision was that I couldn't bear for my existing son to lose his brother. WIBU

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theymademejoin · 13/05/2018 11:52

@laminatefloor - I'm sure people who have yet to make the decision will search threads based on the condition their child has been diagnosed with. A thread you started on that subject would have been found much easier than your nasty post in the middle of one giving support to a woman who has already made a very difficult decision.

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viques · 13/05/2018 12:02

Laminate floor, unless you were present at the consultations between petamax and her consultants , and unless you are yourself a paediatric neonatal specialist you have no right to declare that the information and advice they were given given is "terribly wrong" . I am happy your situation worked out for you, but you can't extrapolate other people's outcomes from yours.

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sosks · 13/05/2018 12:06

You weren't being unreasonable. I lost my son in August, stillborn through a rare genetic defect. We were told he had very little chance of survival, and we continued anyways hoping we might get some time with time, that things might be different, the drs might be wrong. We didn't, they weren't, and the drs were right. It's the single hardest thing I've ever been through in my life. I'm crying as I type this as another friend has announced her pregnancy. I have no other children, but if I were in your place I would have done the same.

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flippyfloppyflower · 13/05/2018 12:12

laminatefloor not a very helpful post is it? I am assuming you have no specialist medical training and were not present at the consultations etc so perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself.

OP: the decision you made was made with love and because you cared so it was not and cannot have been the wrong decision. Look after yourself and do not beat yourself up Flowers

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DiddimusStench · 13/05/2018 12:14

sadly there is nothing that can be done to change the terribly wrong information that the OP was given, on which she made her decision.

Just going to wade in here and say who the fuck are you to know what information was given to the OP or Petalmax?? The information you have is relevant to YOU and no one else. If you wanted to raise any kind of awareness you would have started your own thread which would have been infinitely easier to find for information however, what you’ve done on this thread is downright cruel and if you had any kind of empathy you’d ask HQ to remove your posts before posters such as Petalmax come back and read them.

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theymademejoin · 13/05/2018 12:19

@sosks - it does get easier as time goes on. I terminated rather than continuing with the pregnancy but either decision is really difficult.

I went on to have 3 more children. I had very early scans with each as, while the issue my first had is normally random, it can be genetic. I was very stressed on the first pregnancy after the termination as I was worried about all sorts of problems potentially occurring but the other 2 were fine.

Hopefully, you will go on to have more children if that is what you want.

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theymademejoin · 13/05/2018 12:25

I have reported laminatefloor's posts and asked for them to be deleted.

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RideOn · 13/05/2018 12:27

flippyfloppyflower you can see surely how it is hard to read that everyone on this thread is supporting the decision to terminate a baby with the condition laminatefloor had 41 years ago.

The reason the OP is still living with this every day is because this is not simple.

It is not easy either having to read that you or your loved ones have a disability/ deformity that others would terminate for.

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theymademejoin · 13/05/2018 12:30

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theymademejoin · 13/05/2018 12:32

@RideOn - no but there is a time and a place and this is neither the time nor the place for those comments.

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Pirrip · 13/05/2018 12:32

@Petmalex my baby was diagnosed with left heart hypoplastic syndrome 15 years ago at 20 weeks. No chromosomal abnormality. We made the same decision as you having been left in no doubt by the consultants we saw that his chances of normal life were vanishingly slim, if he survived at all.

My thoughts are with you - you will get through it tomorrow. Flowers

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flippyfloppyflower · 13/05/2018 12:33

RideOn you do NOT know my life or the decisions I have made and my family have made so I CAN (from personal experience) make the comments I have made

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RideOn · 13/05/2018 12:46

Sorry flippyfloppyflower if you are, or have a child or relative who has a condition that others would/are advised to abort, then you really do know how this feels.

I didn't read the whole thread properly and didn't note what Petalmax is facing today. I agree this is not the time or the place. I am sorry for that and truly wish you all peace with your decisions and situations. What is right for one person is not right for another.

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KurriKurri · 13/05/2018 12:47

I'm so sorry for your loss OP, it is a devastatingly hard decision to have to make, and one for which no body is prepared. I had a similar decision many years ago, and I had made my decision, but then the baby died inside me so my decision became irrelevant. I still think about it over thirty years later.

Have you ever been offered the chance to talk about what happened with a counsellor? That can be helpful sometimes, there's a very deep need to mourn and honour the baby who is gone and sometimes we don't get that opportunity, life moves on and it feels as if our precious baby has been forgotten by everyone except ourselves.

I went for counselling for an entirely different matter some years after my loss and ended up talking about my lost baby - so many things seemed to come back to that sadness. It doesn't change what happened but sometimes it can help to voice your pain and have it acknowledged by someone on the outside. Flowers

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Hadenoughoftumble · 13/05/2018 12:55

My friend was too selfish to do what the OP did.

Selfish? As someone who has been in the op’s position and told at the anomaly scan that my baby had several serious heart defects, I find it awful that you’ve called your friend selfish. I made a different choice to the op but neither choice was selfish or wrong. Each decision a woman makes in this situation is extremely painful but right for her at that time.

Huge hugs to anyone going through this at the moment or who has gone through it. Special thoughts with Petalmax today.

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Happyandyouknowitclapclap · 13/05/2018 13:00

There is no wrong decision in that situation as its impossible to know what would happen.

If you had continued the pregnancy you could have equally regretted it seeing the baby go through countless injections and painful procedures with no guarantee of even surviving.
Your 3 year old would have then had a very hard loss at a young age.

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TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 13/05/2018 13:06

I am so, so sorry. A termination at 24 weeks is unimaginable. My heart goes out to you. Thank you for talking about this.

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loopylou6 · 13/05/2018 13:24

Laminate, I'm very glad that your situation has worked out, but your post here is at best extremely insensitive, at worst downright cruel, you should ask for it to be deleted.

Op and @petmalix I would just like to offer my sincere condolences and also to tell you that I'm awed by your bravery and selflessness

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Ohmydayslove · 13/05/2018 13:29

Hugs to everyone having to go through such cruel situations. Flowers

laminate your post is very insensitive even if you didn’t mean it to be, and you should really ask for it to be withdrawn.

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WhoGetsHeard · 13/05/2018 13:40

DuchyDuke what a truly horrible thing to say about anyone who has lost their baby, never mind a "close friend." Too selfish to terminate? How dare you.

OP, a decision made out of love isn't one that you should live with guilt over. You wanted the best for both of your children and were faced with an impossible situation that forced you to take one action or the other, without knowing what future lay on the other side of either choice. You can't blame yourself for that, it was not your fault. You did your best for both your children, and acted out of love for them both, paying the price yourself in grief and pain so that they didn't have to. The act of a loving mother. Flowers

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ConciseandNice · 13/05/2018 13:48

Very wise words from @WhoGetsHeard. Don’t regret a decision made from love.

I had all sorts of tests in my last pregnancy knowing with as much certainly as one can that I would terminate if there was anything substantial wrong. I have adult children who would be responsible for their sibling if anything happened to their parents. I knew it would be a difficult but necessary decision to put them first.

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SadMummy85 · 13/05/2018 13:57

How dare you, @DuchyDuke

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BuntyII · 13/05/2018 14:14

Only you can make the right decision for you and your family. Not everyone wants to spend their life fighting. Some do, some don't.

One thing I do know is all the babies who's mums made the decision not to carry them to term spent their little lives knowing nothing but their mothers love and protection ❤️

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Babymamaroon · 13/05/2018 14:31

Petmalex I'm thinking of you today. Sending love and strength Thanks

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