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Termination of pregnancy at 24 weeks due to heart defect

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Lifehasitsproblems · 14/10/2017 22:55

I live with this every day. 13 years ago at my 20 week scan I was told there was an echo on the baby's heart but that there was nothing to worry about. I had a three year old boy at the time and this was a much wanted second child. My gp suggested going for a private scan at the fetal medical centre to get a better understanding of what was happening. I was told that the baby, a boy, had transposition of the great arteries. In the womb he would be fine because he was receiving all the oxygen he needed from the umbilical chord but when he was born he would need key hole surgery followed by open heart surgery followed by regular further operation(s) on his heart to deal with scar tissue etc. He had a 59% chance of living to age 16. There was no guarantee of the quality of life he would have assuming he lived to 16 and beyond.

At 24 weeks (it took almost four weeks to get the appointment for the private scan and i needed a few days to make the decision) on Mothers Day, as it happened, I was taken for a final scan where they injected the baby's heart to stop it then induced me so that I gave birth.

The baby was tiny but perfectly formed to look at. We gave him a name and dressed him and ultimately we buried him.

My son who was three at the time vaguely remembers the little brother he lost. One of the biggest factors in making the decision was that I couldn't bear for my existing son to lose his brother. WIBU

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 14/10/2017 23:44

There is something incredibly loving about a mother who can place two children’s welfare well above her own emotional wants and needs when they are connected to such a situation.

Op I’m sorry for your loss

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BishopBrennansArse · 14/10/2017 23:49

I didn’t get the choice - I was induced at 23+5 because my DD had already gone and I’m thankful that I didn’t have to make the choice. She had a condition incompatible with life. Ten years ago now.

I’d never judge anyone for making the decision you did. There for the grace and all that. It’s natural to self doubt, feel guilt. You did what was best at that time. Be gentle to yourself.

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FarFrom · 14/10/2017 23:50

I'm so sorry for your awful situation and of course you did nothing wrong. I'm sorry this continues to cause you pain.

For anyone else reading this however with a baby with this diagnosis- this is absolutely not an accurate prognosis for tga. I'm sorry to put this on your thread op but do think this needs to be said as others with this diagnosis may read this and if just transposition alone this just isn't right.

But op you did what was right for your family with the information that you had. Please look after yourself.

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CommanderDaisy · 15/10/2017 00:00

I have been almost exactly where you are. Over 12 years ago.
At 19 weeks, an ultrasound of our second child showed Trisomy 18. We lived in a rural area lacking in the specialist medical facilities necessary for both the birth, and the short time our child would be able to live - the defects were incompatible with life outside a hospital, and there was a high degree of maternal risk involved with the placenta.
My husband could not relocate for the period of time necessary ( farm) , and I did not believe it would be fair to our 3 year old to choose to put him through an unspecified period of time spent in hospital with me, away from his father, and with a child would certainly pass away if not at birth, but shortly after.
We had very little time to decide, as the law in our country draws a line at 22 weeks.
We chose termination also. I KNOW I was not being unreasonable, though others over time have suggested I was.
You did the right thing. It is okay, and sometimes these decisions are for the best for all involved. Do not berate yourself and dwell on this. If you find you can't stop thinking about it, I would get some counselling to help you process how you still feel.

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Placebogirl · 15/10/2017 00:06

You made the bestand onlydecision you could make for your family at that time with the resources and context you had. Others with different families, views, resources and contexts may make a different decision--that matters not a jot. You did the ONLY thing that you could do that was the best of horrible options for your family at the time. Some will tell you they would make a different decision: unless they have been there, they have no bloody idea what decision they would make, so again what they say matters not one iota.

My heart goes out to you and your boys, OP. I cried reading your post. Be kind to yourself--you deserve it.

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CamelliaSinensis35 · 15/10/2017 00:06

Oh, your lovely boy. You did your best for him as a mother should.

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Snoopysimaginaryfriend · 15/10/2017 00:07

Your little boy was loved and is loved everyday. You made an impossible choice and both your boys are lucky to have you as their mother.

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bingbongnoise · 15/10/2017 00:11

Oh wow, no WAY were you being unreasonable. The wee mite would not have lived past 16, your other child may have struggled with the demands of the sibling who was ill all the time, and then he would have lost him later on, which would have been worse.

13 years and this is still getting to you? Sad

You poor thing. Have you spoke to anyone about this? Does your son mention him? Did you have any more kids?

It happened on mothers day too - ouch! Sad

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AnUtterIdiot · 15/10/2017 00:14

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suckitupbuttercups · 15/10/2017 00:15

Op I had the almost identical decision to make 11years ago, I had 2 under 2 and I felt like someone had just deemed me God. A position** I neither applied for or wanted, doctors suddenly became unable to give me any certainty what was the right call and family all said “ we will support you whatever you decide.” I wished and hoped someone would just make the call for me. However I thought of my unborn child quality of life and my children already here and the effect on them.
Do I still question my decision? Yes every day but it was still the right one for us all.
I do light a candle for infant loss but I fear mentioning why as I decided to ‘lose’ my child and have been met with some anger when I’ve spoken to others ( group therapy )
Flowers for you and so much love in a unmumsnetty way

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2017SoFarSoGood · 15/10/2017 00:18

What an incredibly brave woman you are. To have the strength to make the right and best choice for your son. The hardest choice for you to make, you did it. What a wonderful mother you are. 💐💐💐💐💐

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PidgeonSpray · 15/10/2017 00:19

You did the right thing for your baby x

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Itscurtainsforyou · 15/10/2017 00:22

You did what you felt was right. That's all any of us can do.

I'm not sure if it's this time of year (babyloss awareness week at the moment) that's made you ask the question, but do you think you'd benefit from talking to someone to process it all? Losing a child is so hard.

Sending you Flowers

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caringcarer · 15/10/2017 00:41

You did what you thought was best at the time, which is all anyone could do. Don't carry this guilt around, let it go. Don't punish yourself. Try to move on and enjoy your ds. If yods asks just tell him you had impossible decision to make; whatever you chose you would have always wondered what if you made different choice but you had to do what you thought best at time for yourself, your son and unborn child.

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kesie123 · 15/10/2017 00:53

You made completely the right choice - for your family and your unborn child. I made a similar one 14 years ago and have never forgotten him but know that it was the right decision. I feel that you are still struggling so like previous posters have said do go for counselling - if you find the right person it will help you so much. xx

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Spuddington · 15/10/2017 01:11

OP I'm sending you so much love because I've been there. Before DD I had to make the decision to terminate after my anomaly scan. My bloods had shown a low risk for abnormalities but my scan showed a trisomy incompatible with life. I'll never forget going home and feeling kicks and weeping over it all.

I was 23 weeks at termination. I gave birth to a little girl. She was so beautiful despite it all.

Did you name your DC? It's ok to remember and feel it after all this time.

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Lifehasitsproblems · 15/10/2017 14:33

You have no idea what your overwhelmingly positive responses mean to me. Thank you. Farfrom I know that medical advances now would make the situation for a child with this diagnosis different. Really, thank you all again, so much for taking the trouble to reply.

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ElizabethShaw · 15/10/2017 14:37

There's no right or wrong, you made the best choice you could for your family at the time. Another woman in another time might have made a different choice that was right for her.

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Orangebird69 · 15/10/2017 14:38

YWNBU at all OP. A family member went through similar (HLHS discovered at 20 week scan, termination at 22 weeks). It's so so sad. But she made her choice based on what was best for her and her other ds who was 5 at the time. Flowers for you. Be kind to yourself x

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Justanothernameonthepage · 15/10/2017 14:38

YANBU your baby knew nothing but love and safety during his existence. You made a difficult choice that I wish no one had to face.
I'm sorry for your loss. I hope writing it down has helped in some way.

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Whiskeywithwater · 15/10/2017 14:46

OP, word for word exactly the same thing happened to me 9 years ago .. except my much wanted and loved baby was a daughter xx
Like you I sacrificed my own peace of mind so my existing daughter didn't go through losing her sister, or losing her parents. But most importantly so the baby I was carrying never suffered a moments pain.
Xxxx

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SouthWestmom · 15/10/2017 14:46

Farfrom I think your post is really insensitive as it reads. Possibly if you had referenced medical advances.

Op there are a lot of us who have been in similar positions , of varying degrees. My choice was not as clear cut and had a different very positive result but I would not like to be back then with even a small part of what you had to face.

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theymademejoin · 15/10/2017 14:49

I terminated at 22 weeks 21 years ago on my first pregnancy. However, unlike you, I was in the "lucky" position where the condition was incompatible with life so I either waited for him to die in-utero or within a couple of minutes of birth. Your decision was so much harder as there was a possibility of him surviving, albeit with a reduced quality of life. You made the decision that was best for your entire family, including your unborn child, and I can only admire you for having the strength to do that.

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scaryteacher · 15/10/2017 18:55

Noeuf Farfrom is right, and tga could be operated on at least 20 years ago with positive outcomes as this happened with a friend's new baby. Having a 22 year old ds with a heart defect myself, I saw the brilliant work done at Southampton with heart babies, and was very glad they came down as far as Devon for visits.

I am sorry for the OPs situation.

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Evewasinnocent · 15/10/2017 19:29

Please live with having made the right decision (and a very brave one) - and as others have said be kind to yourself

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