To not care if a delivery driver uses a few ft of someones drive at the turning point

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

I run a small buisness from home, I get a delivery once a month from a hgv. There's a turning point at the end of my road that the driver uses to turn around in.

Someone that lives there has had a go at me twice for the hgv turning around at the turning point and apparently using their drive. They claim it's "ripping up the drive" but I've looked at it with them and it hasn't been resurfaced in maybe 20 years so yes it is breaking up a bit. But I doubt that is a lorry once a month.

Aibu to just carry on and ignore the angry man that has little going on in his life?

[Ewanwhosearmy]

Our neighbours regularly had lorry/large vans delivering to them which turned on our drive. We didn't know until I replaced my car and the new one was slightly bigger. One of them reversed into the back of my brand new car and stove the back in. Then they denied all knowledge of it.

Nobody has the right to use private driveways to turn around.

[Lweji]

Of course OP could have used words more specifically or carefully but if you don't read the thread hoping to be outraged the detail is all there...

The OP could have helped herself/himself by not posting like Trump.

HGV was used twice in the OP. Then it's a van.

Who knows what on earth is doing the deliveries, where and doing what, at this point?

[CamperVamp]

Not sure: the big suppliers do use lorries for delivering washing machines etc. They use vans much bigger than a Luton.

[hiddenmnetter]

I've gotta be honest based on OPs description I'm sure it's not a HGV. Sounds far more like a Luton Van- which routinely mount the curb on my street (my neighbour uses one for his work) and there is absolutely no evidence of damage. A lot of this really seems over the top.

Of course OP could have used words more specifically or carefully but if you don't read the thread hoping to be outraged the detail is all there...

[Grimbles]

What are you having delivered that requires a hgv to transport it

Speak to the delivery company and ask if they can use a different vehicle to deliver as your road obviously is suitable for a hgv to be using and manoevering on a regular basis.

[CamperVamp]

LOL.

You put in the thread title that it is his drive, then you backtrack and say it isn't, drip feed that it is a private road, are quite rude to posters who have not been rude to you, challenge posters who are simply answering the question you asked them, talking about taking time and money to check deeds...taking a 'tit for tat' attitude to your rude neighbour...

And you could quite simply add 'please do not use neighbours driveway to turn in'.

By the way, It is the weight and traction of changing from reverse to forward that causes a lot of wear and tear on drives.

[Lweji]

There was a recent thread where a neighbour of someone with a home business was highly inconvenienced.
The council was involved and it looks like they had to stop the business from home.
(Assuming the thread was true)

OP, you're not in an industrial or commercial area, I'll assume you have home business permits, but I wouldn't piss off the neighbours too much. You have more to lose.

[emmyrose2000]

Why would I pay any repair costs for what another company is doing?

The only reason the truck is there in the first place is because of YOU. It doesn't matter if the delivery is being done by bicycle, the fact remains that this man is being inconvenienced because of YOU.

You sound awful and and a dreadful neighbour.

[newdaylight]

I'm tempted to buy the deeds to see if he does even own thqt part as I have my doubts.
This sounds like a really good idea to resolve the issue OP, and taken alongside your other comments, definitely sounds like you're not being a massively inconsiderate dick. I cannot possibly fathom why your neighbour might have wanted to be a bit rude to you.

[Firefries]

I'm sorry you want it to be okay to use but legally and technically your neighbor does not have to let you use it.
It doesn't matter if in your head the ijustwant law says it should be okay because you've allowed others to do it before. That makes no difference. Its his decision here not yours.

[Sayyouwill]

He can film the van using the land a couple of time and then send it off to the council alone with evidence of the damaged drive.
The thing is, it may be no big deal to you, but if it is damaging the land which gives him access to his own home, then this does affect him more than anyone else whether it is his land or not. If the drive is ripped up and a trip hazard then perhaps he has good reason to be annoyed. Even if it is his tires suffering at driving over the cracks and damages caused by your delivery van, you're making his life unnecessarily difficult because he can't prove where the damage came from.

Think of it this way, if someone baked a cake for you and your neighbours and you decided to let your friends poke the cake, after all, it's just as much yours as it is theirs, is that fair? Don't the other people get a say? What if they don't want a cake poked and prodded by people they don't know? Why can't they object?

[MammaTJ]

If he approached me in a respectful way and explained the issue then I would speak to the company and add a delivery note on each order.

That would not be hard to do really, would it?

But as an adult I know how to behave and going and shouting at a stranger when I'm agnry isn't very "win friends and influence people".

Please tell me you get that is self help guide, not a book that people read and think that if people are not sticking to the advice they can be treated badly!! Oh and it's angry, not agnry! The red line in the copied text is bugging me!

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

Surely, regardless of the size of the truck and the damage or lack thereof, it is annoying this man that a delivery driver is regularly using his drive to turn in - the OP now knows this, and there is an easy solution - ring the company and ask them to stop.

Much easier than endlessly justifying why you shouldn't have to be a good neighbour.

[Lweji]

Why is it totally not ok to use a driveway to turn around in? You are supposed to complete the manoeuvre as quickly and safely as possible. Would be stupid for someone to go back and forth 10 times rather than use a few ft of a drive.

It depends on whether it's in his private property or the pavement outside.
If there's a danger of damaging a drive in private property, then it's stupid to go over it and it's better to go back and forth 10 times.
If it just needs a few ft, then I'm sure it wouldn't need to be back and forth 10 times.

[hiddenmnetter]

I take your point tea but I was going off what OP said: It's no bigger than a van that washing machines get silvered [sic] on

I read that to mean it's a Luton van or delivery van size vehicle. I probably wouldn't have called it an HGV in the first place.

OP- what vehicle are we actually talking about? And delivering what? A dump truck delivering a load of hardcore is vastly different to a dump truck full of turf...

I would be surprised though if a truck caused a dropped curb to crack. It should actually be able to support that weight (unless we're talking about a 50 tonne ainscough crane or something absurd)

[teaandtoast]

@hiddenmnetter - you've misunderstood my comment.
Op already said the HGV (lots of weight) was moving slowly, ergo it's not the speed but the weight (in this instance).
If it were a boy racer doing the same but accelerating fast, it would be the speed, not the weight.

Years ago I saw one of those heavy dumper trucks just roll off the edge of a thick slab of concrete with one wheel.
The concrete cracked right across the corner.

[Andrewofgg]

In his shoes I'd chain the drive off with a good tough chain.

[hiddenmnetter]

Sorry and an addendum - given that it's a private road (I presume the Local Council hasn't adopted it?) then it's shared property once you get to the footpath. In which case that would explain why OP was suggesting that if the drop curb wasn't private property then it would be just as much hers as the neighbour's property (as she would be a part owner of the private road...

[hiddenmnetter]

I actually agree with OP...

Someone above said it's not the speed, it's the weight. That's wrong, it's the weight and the speed. If you're travelling very slowly over a cemented drive, unless you're driving a road train or something like that you're very unlikely to damage the drive (especially as OP has indicated that it's a Luton Van rather than a Mack Truck)

so it's unlikely to actually be causing damage in the first place.

Second - the issue that it's the neighbour's drive/not the neighbours drive is an interesting question. It is not uncommon for people's property line to end at the footpath, which makes the dropped curb section of the driveway (which is what it sounds like the delivery driver is using) is actually council property, not the neighbour's property.

If the dropped curb is degraded and broken up, it's entirely possible that the HGV is adding to the damage, however that would be up to the council to maintain (i.e.: dig up and re-lay the cement).

Maybe i've misunderstood but if I have gotten an accurate picture it sounds like the neighbour is getting overly irate over nothing. It might be the more neighbourly thing to try and sort it out, but I can appreciate that if someone approached me f'ing and blinding I probably wouldn't be in a mood to do that either. Further as it's part of the public highway it's not really unreasonable for the delivery driver to use it...

[FiveShelties]

Very Good OP - nearly got me there, I thought you were being serious

[StealthNinjaMum]

www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158

Highway Code rule 145 says you mustn't drive over a pavement unless to gain access to a property. Or in an emergency.

Op why start the thread if you cannot believe you could be wrong?

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Gosh this would be the most boring wind up, van on driveway for a few seconds a month.

Do you have a source for that LivLemler?

When executing the 3-point turn, please remember the 3-point turn should only be used on a narrow side street when there is no room to make a U-turn and no other place to turn around such as a driveway.

www.arcadedriversschool.com/3-point-y-turn.php

The whole road needs a resurface, talks kick off every other year or so and always end in a stalemate getting everyone to agree. Very difficult with over 50 houses. It definitely puts me off ever living on a private road again.

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

"It's a private road, I didn't say it was my drive."

You did say:
"...it's unclear if it's his drive or just as much mine..."

A little contradiction there.

[AssassinatedBeauty]

You're not supposed to use other people's drives or park on the pavement! No wonder you don't see your neighbours point of view.

You sound determined to punish this man for speaking to you in a manner that you think was rude. You're not interested in anyone else's point of view, so I wondered why you bothered posting here and asking?

[Aderyn17]

I live on a private road. All repair costs are split between all residents. So either he owns this bit of drive and your supplier is causing damage, which he has every right to object to. Or everyone owns it and the repair costs will be split between all residents, including you.
Either way it's in your best interests to put a stop to it.