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To think missing a portion of a lesson is not an appropriate sanction?

61 replies

MsGameandWatch · 01/03/2017 18:49

Even if it's a favourite lesson, it's still a lesson, it's on the NC, it's part of their education. I don't think it should be used as a sanction punishment.

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TalkingofMichaelAngel0 · 01/03/2017 21:25

It is very common for students in secondary to be removed from lessons when their behaviour has been poor. Defiance will get that punishment.

Maybe the staff who were at school at the time of the disagreement saw more of what happened that youve been told by your daughter. Maybe other children saw what happened which resulted in both children being told to apologise. Maybe your daughter told you a version of fhe events that made her look better.

Starlight2345 · 01/03/2017 21:28

Was it unfair ?
Mn- don't know not enough information
OP- Mn is another world.

Not sure why you are asking. We have a behaviour policy in school that yes they can be removed from lessons for 5 minutes due to certain behaviours.

Her previous past behaviour is not relevant.
The fact it is her favourite lesson is not relevant.

I am left feeling very sorry for the teachers. They have 30ish children to look after and keep in line and actually any punishment is put under the microscope.

No idea if your DD was right or wrong I don't have enough information.

Shadowboy · 01/03/2017 21:29

I don't allow students in my lesson if the HW I set as preparation for the lesson hasn't been done. They then end up behind if their own doing. They only ever do it once or twice before they learn it's not worth it and they then DO their prep. I only teach GCSE and A level though!

GwenStaceyRocks · 01/03/2017 21:35

Posters don't need to know what happened tbh because you weren't asking if it was an appropriate punishment in this circumstance but whether it's ever an appropriate punishment for an incident that happened at break. I don't think it is. Missing break is appropriate; not missing part of a lesson.

Trifleorbust · 01/03/2017 21:36

MsGameandWatch: That's okay.

Leeds2 · 01/03/2017 21:36

I am not disagreeing with your approach Shadowboy, but where do the DC go when they are missing a lesson? I guess A Level students would, hopefully, treat it as a study period but what about GCSE students?

Allthebestnamesareused · 01/03/2017 21:38

In that case it can be an appropriate punishment!

SmileEachDay · 01/03/2017 21:38

Gwen it is relevant because if an issue between children happened at at and was likely to rumble on into the next lesson, it may well be perfectly appropriate..

slkk · 01/03/2017 21:38

As a teacher I wouldn't do this unless the time was used to make amends/mediate/write apology letter etc if that was appropriate. Children might miss non core lessons to catch up on work not completed in core lessons or homework. But not for a playground dispute. The only exception might be if children were fighting at break in football and I felt they would not be able to play safely in PE. But even then, I'd probably adapt the lesson or have them referee etc rather than send them out. Refusal to apologise would lead to further time taken to discuss and explore the issues between the children (possibly at a break time).

Shadowboy · 01/03/2017 22:04

Leeds2- we are a sixth form college so the GCSE students are all 17+ and most are resitting or taking up GCSEs to enable them to do A levels or an apprenticeship. We have to teach a 2 year course in only 9 months so they get set a lot of prep. If they don't do it we get really really behind so if they do t have it done they have to go off somewhere in college to get it done.

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall · 01/03/2017 22:07

Why didn't she exclude her from Maths or English then?

Because primary schools are judged on how well their pupils do in maths and english; nobody gives a toss whether they can create a picture in the style of Monet using pastels.

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