to ask for your suggestions to getting car share passenger to change?

[winobaglady]

I drive, she doesn't. We have small car share pool, I know one of the other drivers gets annoyed by this behaviour but they are more hard line.

Car share partner (let's call her Lisa) is always late when collecting in the morning. If told she will be collected at 0710, she comes out of her house at 0713/0714. Ok, only a couple of minutes, but we then go on to collect others, meaning they are waiting for collection. Also, it's the time of day when even 5 or 10 minutes delay at the start of the 30 minute journey might mean getting caught in traffic at the other end for up to 20 additional mins.

Other driver has once waited 2 mins, then gone to pick up others then returned to collect Lisa. Doesn't seem to have changed behaviour.

Also, there's no point collecting others first, as they live en route, so doing that would entail doubling back.

I'd just like her to manage to get out on time in the morning. I've said gentle things like "Oh I was about to phone to check you were coming", but she usually says things like "my bra fastening got stuck in my hair" and "I couldn't fine the shoes I wanted".
She does contribute to petrol

Apologies, long post.

[Floggingmolly]

Surely the car share is for convenience only? mainly Lisa's, it would seem There is absolutely no way that giving someone a lift confers upon you the responsibility to get them to work. That is complete nonsense.

[ShimmyOhoh]

You can refuse a warning? Would that then lead to instant dismissal?

[Floggingmolly]

You can insist that the muppets accept that it's the idiot incapable of getting themselves to work without your assistance who is obstructing business needs, not you

[TheOnlyLivingBoyinNewCork]

If they sack you for not bringing another employee to work thats an easy win at employment tribunal!

[ReginaGeorgeinSheepsClothing]

What would then happen if your car broke down and couldn't afford to repair it would your work make you take out a loan to do so to convey this colleague to work??

[melj1213]

I'd speak to her - remind her that her pick up time is 7:10 which means she needs to be curbside at 7:10 (or if it's bad weather/she doesn't want to stand on the street corner she's waiting inside with coat on ready to walk out, lock door and straight over to car when she sees you pulling up) not finishing her morning routine. You need to tell her that her lateness, even by just a couple of minutes' is affecting the entire pickup process and if she can't honour her side and be on time then you'll have to drop her from the group.

One of my friends is terrible for time keeping and carpooling with her was a nightmare so I message her as I leave home "Leaving now, will be at yours at 10 past." so that she has been pre-warned - then when I arrive if she isn't at the curb/literally walking out of the door, I beep the horn and wait another 30 seconds or so and if there's still no sign of her at the door, then I just leave as she knows I can't wait any longer and it's her responsibility to get herself to work.

You don't have to but is there any way that instead of arriving at 7:10 and expecting her to be curbside, you arrive a few minutes before that and agree that if she isn't out by 7:10 then you leave? That way you are giving her a "pick up" that factors in her tendancy to faff for a couple of minutes and also allows for any minor time discrepancies between your clocks and hers.

When I lived in Madrid a friend of mine used to pick me up when we worked in a school out in the suburbs but rather than saying I'll pick you up at 8:10, she said "I'm leaving my house at 8:00 so I should be outside your building at 8:06 and if you're not out by 8:10 then I'm leaving. That way I would aim to be ready and waiting for her at 8:06 but if I was held up by something, like the lift up to the 10th floor being slow that day then I had a couple of minute leeway to either wait for it or run down the stairs before she left. It also meant that she could leave for the 6 minute journey to my house and stll be on time to pick me up even if she hit traffic or was a couple of minutes late leaving herself.

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

I agree with everyone who has said you need to tell her she must be ready, waiting for you at her door, at 7.10, and if she isn't ready, you will be going without her!

[dowhatnow]

If you are really wimpy then talk to the others to let them know you are sending a general reminder to everyone that they must be on time or the lift will continue without them, but that it isn't aimed at them. They will know what you are doing...

But better to get your big girl pants on and tell her that she should be waiting when you pull up or you will continue driving straight on.

[BigGreenOlives]

I had this with a school run, gave them a final warning & they were late. Just rang the mum & said it was no longer working for me.

[WhatchaMaCalllit]

Have you made any progress OP on this? Is your car share on time now?