AIBU to bag up cereal with pre-portioned sugar to stop the kids wasting it?

[TheOnlyColditz]

I mean a sandwich bag of cereal with another little bag of sugar inside? Currently I'm scraping glued on cereal and sugar off the bottoms of bowls every day! Kids are 7, 10 and 14

I am sure the op is grateful for your input Marilyn...

Marilynsbigsister Have you been at the sugar, you seem very agitated. Oh yeah, and wind your neck in at people telling others sugar is the devil - it's a free forum.

Au contraire, *DameXanadu - it is a preservative, it makes things taste nice, and without it there would be no cake.

I personally do not think any food should be demonised - it doesn't promote a sensible attitude towards food, and the aim should be to eat a balanced diet, within the bounds of which a bit of sugar now and then will not do you any harm at all.

Frankly, if you cut out of your diet all the different foods and food groups that have been demonised over the years - fat, saturated fat, polyunsaturated fat, carbohydrates, sugar, roasted or toasted food, fried food, unpasteurised milk and cheeses, etc, etc - you would be left with a diet consisting of poached skinless chicken breast and kale - which would be utterly miserable!

Food, for me, is about nourishing the soul and spirit as well as the body - but hopefully doing so in a fairly sensible and balanced fashion.

When you demonise a food or food group, it becomes the Forbidden Fruit, and as such, is a huge temptation. If it is just a normal part of life, you can keep it in balance, and keep it to a sensible amount - because you are not craving something forbidden.

I do not eat sugar - I don't crave it at all. Not one iota. I agree with demonising other foods, I have read extensively on the harm sugar does so I don't eat it. It has no value whatsoever.

And I've just made a delicious chocolate mousse and choc truffles, both absolutely sugar free. It's the texture of smooth choc I miss, not the sugar so I recreate that with adapted deserts.

'Everyone should demonise sugar. There is literally NOTHING good about it. At all. Full stop.'

Yeah, there is, it tastes nice.

How did you get the sugar out of your breastmilk?

Expat I think you might be onto something there!!! Not strictly sugar but similar my friend never ever let her ds have sweets or chocolate- ever. Anytime he was at her friends houses, parties situations where it was there he was the greediest child for sweets chocolate ever to point it was awkward to watch. He's never got out of it. I do think everything in moderation is fine.

I boiled it, then strained it.

darn it Colditz!! Bf those pesky dc for 18mths a piece they were obviously dammed from the start.

Not an expert by any means on breast milk but when I looked it up it says that the special sugars are not digested by the baby but are there to create a good gut flora.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3586783/

No, it seems like they need the glucose

A container per child containing five days' worth of cereal - if they have the same one each day, that is - plus a smaller container each with five days' worth of sugar for cereal. Younger child might need a bit of help at the start learning how to ration it out evenly. If they run out, then they run out. How to make the kids stop wasting the milk so the cereal swims in it, and then they don't eat/drink the milk is the thing that drives me potty.

This is AIBU - a well-known forum for people to pile in with whatever comments come to mind.

The OP was basically along the lines of -

"I do not and will not supervise my kids breakfast because I am getting myself ready upstairs. I need to leave sugar out for my DC every morning. I don't care about them eating this sugar - at least they aren't having Cookie Crisp - but I really can't be arsed scraping it out of their bowls when it's gone hard in the evening. Due to this inconvenience, I'm thinking about putting it in small bags or containers, thereby making MY life easier".

And then, ON MN, some people are actually surprised when some posters feel that the portioning and/or container is hardly the issue?

If you didn't see the responses coming, you must be living in a bubble.

There is no direct link between sugar and diabetes. Sugar consumption contributes to obesity which can lead to diabetes (not the only route to diabetes but the only one that involves sugar). This point has been persistently misrepresented in the media so if anyone knows otherwise I would be grateful for links to published, peer reviewed literature, not random websites.

With regards to free sugar in a balanced diet WHO has some clear advice Boo
www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs394/en/

Wrt diabetes the diabetes.org.uk is a good source of evidence based information.

Don't know if anyone else has put this idea forward, but why not give each child a sugar allowance each week. Buy a small pot and put their allowance into it and tell them how long it has to last them. I used to do this with my Ds who was and probably still is a sugar fiend (left home now) and once it ran out it wasn't replaced until I decided to replace it.

I'm lucky with Dd and the yoghurt.

Ah yes! I see it has been suggested.

I purchased small bowls to stop the cereal & milk wastage. I've never given mine sugar to put on cereal, although I have let them have cereal with sugar in. A weekly allowance of sugar is actually a really good idea, except my DC would probably pour any left at the end of the week straight into their mouths.

Idefix I may have misunderstood your post but you give a link that says nothing about sugar and diabetes, while suggesting an organisation which clearly states that sugar does not cause diabetes.

www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/Enjoy-food/Eating-with-diabetes/Diabetes-food-myths/Myth-sugar-causes-diabetes/

So were you saying you agree with me in some way that I didn't quite get?

Well this has extended into the surreal.

OP YANBU to be annoyed about the sugar. I also get annoyed at the weetabix left all day to congeal, but DH does the washing up so I'm not that bothered.

Get them to rinse the bowls as the last thing they do before they leave the house.

Sorry Boo was getting tired, 2 weeks post major op

Link was to recommendations for added sugar to diet.

But yy there is plenty of evidence out there regarding there being no direct link between sugar consumption and diabetes type 2.

In the main obesity appears to be the biggest factor in developing type 2 and whilst that maybe a result of a diet that is high in fat and sugar it doesn't mean eating sugar is bad. So I am with you

Type 2 diabetes is caused by excessive sugar consumption, I don't understand why this is being touted as a myth. I'm not going hunting for peer reviewed publications because it's bedtime but: When you eat sugar (table sugar, golden syrup, honey, or indeed complex carbohydrates such as starch) they are digested to give glucose. This is absorbed into your bloodstream, and is the fuel we need to keep us going. However, your body cannot have glucose swilling around in the blood, it is toxic. So, in response to the glucose arriving, insulin is released to deal with it and get it to where it needs to be. Big sugar spike, big insulin spike. Little sugar spike, little insulin spike. ( This is the basis of low GI diets which were actually developed to help diabetics control their illness, low GI food release sugars slowly into the bloodstream so you don't get the big sugar / insulin spike). Over years of having big insulin spikes, your body can develop insulin resistance, it no longer responds to the insulin by tidying away the glucose, leaving toxic levels in the bloodstream. This is the first step in the development of type 2 diabetes. This can happen in lean people, you don't have to be overweight. This used to be a disease of the elderly, it took a lifetime to develop. But doctors are now seeing it appearing in younger patients, even teenagers. Because of increasing levels of dietary sugar. And by the way, there are researchers who now refer to dementia as type 3 diabetes, there is a school of thought that the development of the amyloid plaques in the brain is the result of too much sugar in the bloodstream ( over a lifetime) causing glycation of proteins which then misfold.
Obesity is not the cause of diabetes, it is the result of excessive calorie consumption which may well arise from high sugar consumption so obesity and diabetes are co- morbidites of high sugar consumption.
Type 1 diabetes is a completely different illness, caused by a lack of insulin production. Controlling sugar intake is important in managing the disease, but it is not the primary cause of it.
Other sugars, which don't break down to glucose can be tolerated by diabetics eg fructose, xylitol etc as they don't require the insulin response. Fructose however is seen by some as even more dangerous than glucose, as it tends to be mopped up and converted into liver fat which is also a bad thing.

Just because you read a book by some doctor somewhere doesn't make you an expert on nutrition, just saying...

any kind of rationing of sugar will probably lead to ED. I'd just put the sugar bowl out and let them have as much as they like, this means their bodies will very quickly tire of sugar and self moderate.