To be sick of the food Gestapo on here?

[MaddyHatter]

Honestly, the amount of declarations about what is healthy and unhealthy.. its ridiculous.

if you listened to everyone on here we'd all have to be vegans and living off sucking water through a celery stick.

Just shut up. If you honestly think food like Sausages, Mashed Potato, Tomato Soup, bread, cheese, milk and most fruit are unhealthy, the you're teaching your kids into eating disorders.

[MistressDeeCee]

I couldnt care less about stats - I do not walk around, drive around etc and as a matter of course see people akin to herded elephants trundling past me.. & I won't believe anyone who comes along and says "fat is the norm". No, its not.

How many fat people have you seen today? No slimmies? Are all your friends family work colleagues and yourself fat? Are all schoolchildren you see fat? Because going by your keen-ness to follow stats then absolutely loads of you must be huge, waddling all over the place

Then again who knows - Im not deluded enough to fret over whether protein and fat in cheese will strike me dead. Nor am I scanning people about their weight and loftily judging them as obese if they're a mere stone overweight. No time to be that rude

I did say that food obsessives always seem miserable as sin prophets of doom

Its Friday. I had a capuccino & a Twirl choc bar a couple of hours back hopefully I won't be obese by dawn, all saying I survive after such outrageous behaviour. It was a lovely 15 minute snack time tho

[LittleBearPad]

Op yanbu. There's a heap of madness about food on here. The peanut M&ms comment on the sausage thread was ahighlight.

[littleprincesssara]

The causes of obesity are varied and complex. Some people have severe psychological issue with food and need to be treated with proper MH care. Some people lack access to proper resources (thinking food deserts in the USA, and families with no cooking facilities). Lifestyles have changed so much. And so much about modern food eg transfats, HFCS, gmo, hormones in food etc. just terrify me.

But this has nothing to do with enjoying food. Creating a guilt culture around food and labelling food as good or bad (and a food can be good one minute or bad the next) just increases the problem.

[littleprincesssara]

Personally speaking I love food a lot, I'm a passionate foodie and cook and baker. But I eat a really wide range of food. I might have kale and quinoa one day, and a big cream cake the next. And genuinely enjoy and relish both of them equally, and not feel any sense of virtue or guilt for either choice.

[cornishglos]

Look away now if you're not feeling brave...

Raisins....

[IPityThePontipines]

Whoever said about cooking with no salt reminds me of a poster who proudly declared she had never used any seasoning ever, and anyone who did, had "wrecked their palate".

It makes you wonder where they think spices come from, do they think they are just artificially flavoured powders?

[ThumbWitchesAbroad]

Two things on salt - it is possible to de-sensitise your palate with too much salt, DH has done this and "needs" to add a fair bit of extra salt to his food, where the rest of us can taste what I put in just fine, thanks.

I also had a friend how refused to cook with salt, to the point where she didn't have any in the house except in a tiny tiny salt cellar. I was over there for dinner, and I was cooking (she doesn't really enjoy cooking) so asked for the salt to put some in the pasta water. Her husband, when he ate it, said "wow, this is so good, what did you do?" Answer: added salt.

It doesn't have to be a lot to make a difference, unless you've burnt your tastebuds off!

[JoyLibs]

I have to think that some of these people don't realize how odd their diet is. My first thought when reading the sausage thread was that it was a very unhealthy meal. Then I had to remind myself that as much as I like to pretend my diet is normal, in reality, it's actually pretty restrictive (until I get into one of those states where I eat a box of crackers on my own )! I'd probably be diagnosed with orthorexia if it were properly in the DSM.

So, YANBU for sticking it to the food police. I'm personally slowly but surely improving my attitude towards "unhealthy" foods.

[Bloodybridget]

The i newspaper has a recipe every day, very often of the low carb, spiralised courgette, raw cacao variety. Today (yesterday, that is), I was amused to see one from a book of "Decadent Shakes", featuring mini Mars bars, Oreos, and Kinder something or other.
I bet ten years from now, cauliflower rice will be "an occasional treat in our house". Sigh.

[Bloodybridget]

Er - how much do we know about centurions' diets?

[HerRoyalNotness]

My very fussy, will only eat about 3 things (slight exaggeration but he's hard work) 9yo likes quinoa. I had some in the back of the cupboard for some reason and cooked it up, he loved it.
We subsequently went to a restaurant and I searched for something he would eat, spotted some quinoa based dish and recommended it to him. Only he didn't eat it, because it was red quinoa and tasted different to the White quinoa.

[Lweji]

Er - how much do we know about centurions' diets?

About the same as for most Romans, I expect. Better than for legionaries.

[Obviouspretzel]

It is possible to eat quinoa, avocado, kale, etc and still also enjoy kebab meat pizzas, bacon and beer. I do. People seem obsessed with being competitively one or the other.

[albertcampionscat]

The weight loss board is scary. Full of people saying they can't possibly eat more than 1200 cala a day or they gain weight. Does dieting really fuck your metabolism up that much?

[Wolpertinger]

That's not dieting fucking up your metabolism, it's having been fat fucking up your metabolism. Essentially once you've grown all the fat cells your metabolism changes pretty permanently. I can see this in my daily life living with my always thin DH while I try to lose weight.

1200 calories is a fairly normal amount for losing weight. If you are trying to lose a pound a week you need a deficit of 3500 calories a week, every week. Plus you probably have a disordered relationship with food that makes it very difficult to do this, more so than a thin person who has never been fat. And you now can't eat any treats, you go into the supermarket and it's full of food that is 'not for you' while your thin partner is fine with it. Basically it's having been fat once that has irretrievably fucked up your metabolism for ever more.

My DH really doesn't understand why I eat why I do and self sabotage but bless him, he's trying.

So far I've lost 2 and a half stone but it''s taken 3 years and there's another 2 and a half to go.

[BigTroubleInLittleChina]

Unless you have a medical condition......

[HoneyDragon]

I don't really cook with salt. I use s bit to stop onions catching and that's about it.

[Advicepls7080]

Sorry that was my phone yesterday I've only just read back my post haha centenarians!
I clearly talk about centurions loads 😂 (I actually do it's shameful)

[albertcampionscat]

Thanks Wolpertinger - that's insightful. Apologies if I came across as smug - I do realise that my never having dieted/gone much over the recommended BMI is down to luck.

[Wolpertinger]

That's OK albert - my DH is mystified why I can't buy a packet of biscuits because I'll eat all the biscuits. He can eat one biscuit and put the biscuits away.

I've gone carb free doing the blood sugar diet. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs at all. They are a fine food - but not for carb addicts. A colleague brought some fresh samosas into work so I ate one to be polite and my desperation to eat 10 samosas (I could have done this easily) stayed all day. DH would happily have eaten one and enjoyed it. It shocked me and reinforced that carbs are the devils food for me. But for non-binge eaters they are a perfectly fine normal food.

Some of the food police/those on the weight loss thread are talking from their perspective while the never fat are talking from theirs.

[OhhBetty]

Ahh I did laugh when my sister was lecturing me about all the sugar in fruit as my ds particularly loves grapes and raisins and he will have them as a snack. I'll allow him to eat is as I believe in everything in moderation and I'm thankful he's a good eater generally, he loves any kind of food! She had a look of horror as he snacked on some raisins and said they were one of the worst things you could possibly eat. When I went over the following day her dd was happily munching a chocolate chip brioche for breakfast

[Caipora]

This is the real definition of first world problems. Too much food, too much time, too much processed food, too many fads about something that is no longer just a natural part of everyday life like breathing air and sleeping.

[alltouchedout]

I just laugh at them. Life's too full of shit to waste time caring about self appointed food gurus.

[BreakfastAtStephanies]

Now I haven't RTFT but let me just say : I found a recipe for a healthy cake in a magazine. Was prepared to give it a try until I discovered how much more expensive the different ingredients are. Coconut flour is about £ 5 a bag, stevia is expensive, and I'm not sure I can even find agave syrup. It discourages me from trying, especially as I don't know whether I and my family will like the finished product.

[Statelychangers]

Agave syrup has a similar effect on the body as High Fructose Glucose syrup (HFGS) - I won't comment on how bad this is, because that's up to you to draw judgement..... but HFGS is much cheaper than sugar - in American - they boast that they use real sugar - like it's a health food!!!!