To be sick of the food Gestapo on here?

[MaddyHatter]

Honestly, the amount of declarations about what is healthy and unhealthy.. its ridiculous.

if you listened to everyone on here we'd all have to be vegans and living off sucking water through a celery stick.

Just shut up. If you honestly think food like Sausages, Mashed Potato, Tomato Soup, bread, cheese, milk and most fruit are unhealthy, the you're teaching your kids into eating disorders.

[petitpois55]

I've just had Almond butter with mashed Banana on Granary toast. Bloody lovely it was.

[IHaveBrilloHair]

Cashew nut butter is acceptable with avocado for breakfast I believe.

[ivykaty44]

Milk is just disgusting - yukey stuff, fortunately as my mum was asthmatic I was never forced to drink as a child. Had my bones tested five years ago and they are above average density so hasn't done me any harm not drinking that vile stuff

[TaraCarter]

MissHoolie In RL, I have had family asking me whether I'm sure that avocado and nuts are appropriate for my children, on account of them being too high in fat.

[derxa]

Milk Full fat milk Raw milk The Devil's poisons.

[Soubriquet]

Ah careful with the eggs

Unless they are from your own chickens or you personally know the chicken, eggs are a no no too

[MissHooliesCardigan]

Let me try to simplify this. The only foods which I've never heard vilified by the nutrition loons experts on Mumsnet are:
Avocados
Fish (wild, not farmed)
Organic chicken
Eggs
Olive oil
Leafy green veg
Quinoa
Brazil nuts
Porridge
Full fat Greek yoghurt
Milk
Water

Absolutely everything not on the permitted list is either 'full of sugar', 'full of carbs' or bad for you for some other obscure reason.
I mean, come on, how hard can it be? We all know how much kids love avocados and Brazil nuts,right?

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

calories is a fairly normal amount for losing weight. If you are trying to lose a pound a week you need a deficit of 3500 calories a week, every week. Plus you probably have a disordered relationship with food that makes it very difficult to do this, more so than a thin person who has never been fat. And you now can't eat any treats, you go into the supermarket and it's full of food that is 'not for you' while your thin partner is fine with it. Basically it's having been fat once that has irretrievably fucked up your metabolism for ever more

I used to be fat, as a kid I was slim a young adult slim in my mid 20's I got incredibly fat. I now fluctuate between a size 6 and a size 8 if I'm fair I'm probally nearer a 10 now (but I did have a baby a few days ago) I don't need to follow any strict diet, I eat what I want when I want and don't even think about calories or good and bad food.
The vast majority of the friends I made at the slimming classes I went to are much the same now.

Being fat does not have to fuck you up forever,

[ThumbWitchesAbroad]

Yes it is, Stately - my first degree was in Food Science and I learnt enough there to decide I didn't really fancy working in the food industry!

[Statelychangers]

Weird isn't it? To see a boast contains real sugar! Reminds me of the weird boast on fruit flavour products that contain real fruit! The world of processed food is bloody odd.

[BreakfastAtStephanies]

I like that Stately. Will carry on using the erm very healthy sugar then.

[Statelychangers]

Agave syrup has a similar effect on the body as High Fructose Glucose syrup (HFGS) - I won't comment on how bad this is, because that's up to you to draw judgement..... but HFGS is much cheaper than sugar - in American - they boast that they use real sugar - like it's a health food!!!!

[BreakfastAtStephanies]

Now I haven't RTFT but let me just say : I found a recipe for a healthy cake in a magazine. Was prepared to give it a try until I discovered how much more expensive the different ingredients are. Coconut flour is about £ 5 a bag, stevia is expensive, and I'm not sure I can even find agave syrup. It discourages me from trying, especially as I don't know whether I and my family will like the finished product.

[alltouchedout]

I just laugh at them. Life's too full of shit to waste time caring about self appointed food gurus.

[Caipora]

This is the real definition of first world problems. Too much food, too much time, too much processed food, too many fads about something that is no longer just a natural part of everyday life like breathing air and sleeping.

[OhhBetty]

Ahh I did laugh when my sister was lecturing me about all the sugar in fruit as my ds particularly loves grapes and raisins and he will have them as a snack. I'll allow him to eat is as I believe in everything in moderation and I'm thankful he's a good eater generally, he loves any kind of food! She had a look of horror as he snacked on some raisins and said they were one of the worst things you could possibly eat. When I went over the following day her dd was happily munching a chocolate chip brioche for breakfast

[Wolpertinger]

That's OK albert - my DH is mystified why I can't buy a packet of biscuits because I'll eat all the biscuits. He can eat one biscuit and put the biscuits away.

I've gone carb free doing the blood sugar diet. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs at all. They are a fine food - but not for carb addicts. A colleague brought some fresh samosas into work so I ate one to be polite and my desperation to eat 10 samosas (I could have done this easily) stayed all day. DH would happily have eaten one and enjoyed it. It shocked me and reinforced that carbs are the devils food for me. But for non-binge eaters they are a perfectly fine normal food.

Some of the food police/those on the weight loss thread are talking from their perspective while the never fat are talking from theirs.

[albertcampionscat]

Thanks Wolpertinger - that's insightful. Apologies if I came across as smug - I do realise that my never having dieted/gone much over the recommended BMI is down to luck.

[Advicepls7080]

Sorry that was my phone yesterday I've only just read back my post haha centenarians!
I clearly talk about centurions loads 😂 (I actually do it's shameful)

[HoneyDragon]

I don't really cook with salt. I use s bit to stop onions catching and that's about it.

[BigTroubleInLittleChina]

Unless you have a medical condition......

[Wolpertinger]

That's not dieting fucking up your metabolism, it's having been fat fucking up your metabolism. Essentially once you've grown all the fat cells your metabolism changes pretty permanently. I can see this in my daily life living with my always thin DH while I try to lose weight.

1200 calories is a fairly normal amount for losing weight. If you are trying to lose a pound a week you need a deficit of 3500 calories a week, every week. Plus you probably have a disordered relationship with food that makes it very difficult to do this, more so than a thin person who has never been fat. And you now can't eat any treats, you go into the supermarket and it's full of food that is 'not for you' while your thin partner is fine with it. Basically it's having been fat once that has irretrievably fucked up your metabolism for ever more.

My DH really doesn't understand why I eat why I do and self sabotage but bless him, he's trying.

So far I've lost 2 and a half stone but it''s taken 3 years and there's another 2 and a half to go.

[albertcampionscat]

The weight loss board is scary. Full of people saying they can't possibly eat more than 1200 cala a day or they gain weight. Does dieting really fuck your metabolism up that much?

[Obviouspretzel]

It is possible to eat quinoa, avocado, kale, etc and still also enjoy kebab meat pizzas, bacon and beer. I do. People seem obsessed with being competitively one or the other.

[Lweji]

Er - how much do we know about centurions' diets?

About the same as for most Romans, I expect. Better than for legionaries.