To complain to school?

[Dutch212]

Son was to do PE at peak heat outside yesterday followed by lessons outside. Came home with heatstroke. Aibu to complain that school should have kept children cool and out of sun. I sent him with hat, water and creamed but it didn't prevent this.

[YoureAllABunchOfBastards]

That's where it's bloody come from! Except my lot think it is law already.

One group sat on the grass and said they were on strike. I sat down and asked them which trade union they were in, how much the subs was, when the strike ballot was held, what the turnout was...they quickly decided that it was a toss up between telling me to fuck off or going in, and so went in.

It's the same as soon as a flake of snow hits the roof - Miss, are we closing? Erm, no.

[SemiNormal]

If I had a quid for every secondary child who told me today that we have to close and go home as soon as it gets to 30 degrees, I'd be having a nice holiday soon... - well if a certain MP gets their way then it's likely they will be able to go home at 30 degrees www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather/10185012/Staff-should-be-sent-home-if-workplace-gets-hotter-than-30C-says-MP.html

[YoureAllABunchOfBastards]

I even let mine take their ties off...rebel!

[Gileswithachainsaw]

They were allowed to take their blazers off though right?

[YoureAllABunchOfBastards]

If I had a quid for every secondary child who told me today that we have to close and go home as soon as it gets to 30 degrees, I'd be having a nice holiday soon...

[OhSoggyBiscuit]

We were outside between 10am and 2pm today. (not school, college) Tried to stay in the shade as much as I could, but still have a very red face :(

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

Level 3 heat alert today.

[Gileswithachainsaw]

Why are people even arguing about whether itbwas or wasnt heat stroke.or what the differences are?

The kid was ill. Due to a blatant disregard for guidelines with regafs to sun exposure.

Something on a poster found in drs or vets or hospitals etc

Refusing to call it something in the spirit of MN saying that anything short of limbs hanging off or decapatation is something we just need to suck up and shut up about.

Ffs

It shouldnt have happened

[practy]

Heat exhaustion is not the same as heat stroke.

[MaddyHatter]

Heat exhaustion or heatstroke can develop quickly over a few minutes, or gradually over several hours or days.
Signs of heat exhaustion can include:
tiredness and weakness
feeling faint or dizzy
a decrease in blood pressure
a headache
muscle cramps
feeling and being sick
heavy sweating
intense thirst
a fast pulse
urinating less often and having much darker urine than usual
If left untreated, more severe symptoms of heatstroke can develop, including confusion, disorientation, seizures (fits) and a loss of consciousness.

How to prevent heat exhaustion and heatstroke
Heat exhaustion and heatstroke can often be prevented by taking sensible precautions when it's very hot.
During the summer, check for heatwave warnings, so you're aware when there's a potential danger. The government uses a system called Heat-Health Watch to warn people about the chances of a heatwave. This is a system of four different warning levels based on the expected temperature.

Stay out of the heat
Keep out of the sun between 11am and 3pm.
If you have to go out in the heat, walk in the shade, apply sunscreen and wear a hat and light scarf.
Avoid extreme physical exertion.
Wear light, loose-fitting cotton clothes.
If you're travelling to a hot country, be particularly careful for at least the first few days, until you get used to the temperature.
Cool yourself down
Have plenty of cold drinks, and avoid excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.
Eat cold foods, particularly salads and fruit with a high water content.
Take a cool shower or bath.
Sprinkle water over your skin or clothing, or keep a damp cloth on the back of your neck.
If you’re not urinating frequently or your urine is dark, it's a sign that you're becoming dehydrated and need to drink more.

My DH is a welder, i have to make sure i keep the house cool and that the fans are on. He is very likely to get heat exhaustion today, and thats a fully grown healthy adult working in a business who are VERY vigilant over the health of their staff during heatwaves with regular breaks, iced water provided....etc

I went to get my DS from school and his classroom was diabolically hot, i couldn't bear it for 5 minutes, never mind all day!

[Fourarmsv2]

My sister got ill two years on the trot on school sports days. Held in June or July in Cyprus! Proper hospitalised, cooling blankets, thermometer up the bum ill. I would be furious if this was my child.

[Discobabe]

Yadnbu. I suffer really easily from the sun or being too hot. I'll have to cover up to do a 30min school run today otherwisr I'll burn, even with factor 50 on. Heat exhaustion feels.horrible and even if it wasn't full.blown heat exhaustion/stroke your ds was clearly ill from too much sunand they need to be more careful.

I'm interested to know how a parent with a child can't diagnose them.but a forum of people who've never clapped eyes on said child can though . Headaahes, cramps, nausea, tiredness and dark urine are all symptoms of heat exhaustion.

[SarcasmMode]

Id raise it with the school. One of the children could've had heat stroke.

I'm presuming OPs DS had heat exhaustion which can lead to heat stroke.

It's also awful feeling shivery yet hot, exhausted, out of it, thirst can't be quenched (I've had it before).

Hope DS is doing OK today OP.

[JacquesHammer]

DD's school has a sun policy: -

*All children are provided with sunhats by the school - these remain in their desk. They are not allowed out in sun without them.
*School provides suncream and will assist those that need help applying. Similarly if you prefer to send your own they will assist with this.
*All children are allowed a water bottle with them at all times. During PE they have "drink breaks" where they are all encouraged to take on fluid.

PLus they also use common sense. They had treat afternoon last week. And they had chosen outdoor games. It was fairly hot so they set up half the games in the shade - and they rotated around.

Outdoor lunches are always eaten in the shade.

Last heat wave sports day was postponed

[manicinsomniac]

YANBU

At my school we do outdoor sport every day and almost all children are outside at both break and lunchtime too.

BUT we have a proper sun policy. When the 'sun post' has been put out;

• All children have to put sun cream on at break time and before the sports lesson starts.
  *All children and staff have to wear a heat when outside (for KS1 it's one of those funny baseball caps with the hanging material at the back for the neck)
  
• All children have to drink at least 2 glasses of water at lunch time and there is a break in the middle of the sports session for water in the shade (we don't do water bottles in classrooms)
  
  We've also got a qualified nurse and sick bay if anyone gets I'll but, if following that policy, it's extremely unlikely.

[SemiNormal]

But most people just think you're a bit of a nasty twat to be honest. But I suppose you must be used to that if you're like it in RL too.

Well, despite my schools best efforts (as I posted about in previous comment), I had a phonecall to collect him about an hour ago. The kid has the squits - it's not pretty - just as we walked through the door a big brown puddle appeared at his feet! Not sure if it's the heat or something else though (he hasn't eaten anything that I think could give him the shits but who knows).

[Gileswithachainsaw]

I know ilive

Leave your 11 yr old alone for 20mins to do the school run-irresponsible.

Complain your 6 yr old was made ill by stulid ideas of spending all afternoom outsidein the heat-precious

[Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost]

On what planet does being concerned for the safety and well being of your child make you a "snow flake".

[Sleepingbunnies]

My DC are off today as I didn't want them to do sports day in the heat. I actually felt that the school were irresponsible for allowing it to.go ahead.

[bigTillyMint]

I think some people are way more susceptible to the sun/heat than others. I guess the PE was probably an hour or so? Sun hat, cream and some water should have been fine, but maybe he is one that is always going to need to sit quietly in the shade on a very hot sunny day.

I have a child in my class who is like this - constantly asking for water (and is allowed it!) and complaining he has a headache/is tired, etc in this heat.

[practy]

The hall may have been hotter. But of course we don't know.

[Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost]

YNBU. They shouldn't have been out in that yesterday. Why couldn't they have done PE in the school hall.

[Yokohamajojo]

I would also mention it, my kids deal with the sun well although my oldest really don't like it being too hot! We have minimal shade on our concrete school play ground but the teachers and staff put a gazebo up this morning. We also got a text reminding everyone to bring extra water, hat and to cream them up!

When they are in school they are in the care of the staff of the school so why on earth would you not let them take part in an afterschool club? The staff surely should realise that the kid was not well enough to do it!

[practy]

But the lesson should have been in the shade. So I would ask about that.

[winewolfhowls]

I would add to the discussion that classrooms are often hotter than outside with barred windows in our town. So it depends on what is being done outside. Running - bad idea. Queuing to throw a javelin, story time in the shade - ok.