To think the 'Disrespect NoBody' ad campaign is horribly sexist?

[p4rmaviolet]

Not sure if this has already been discussed but has anybody else seen the 'Disrespect NoBody' TV adverts that are supposedly raising awareness for healthy relationships and domestic violence?

Every single scenario in the advert is targeted at men abusing women whether it be physically or emotionally. Y'know because men are never victims?

[HairyLittleCarrot]

[VoldysGoneMouldy]

Oh come on, let's not turn this into a bitching about trans individuals thread...

[pastmyduedate0208]

When men are killed in DV incidents, they are more likely killed by their male partner.
Is it really sexist to aim for men to stop killing women, and killing each other?

[LeanneBattersby]

There is very limited funding for this type of campaign. Unfortunately the Home Office can't afford infinite ad campaigns and therefore they use the cash they have to target the biggest group possible for the least amount of cash. That happens to be women.

I wish they would also run campaigns against female on male violence, against FGM, against hate crime. But they can't afford it, unfortunately.

[OhShutUpThomas]

Spot on, Hairy.

[Roomba]

ODFOD. I am at peak 'what about the menz' now...

It is not sexist to want men to stop fucking killing us.

This.

Seeing as trans women now are women legally, there is obviously no shortage of support, refuges and funding for them, as OP obviously thinks there is for other women, so no need to worry about the trans, they are sorted

[HamaTime]

It's not sexist to not want men to kill us FFS. I can't believe that needs to be said.

Where the hell are abused men supposed to get support, or even know it exists?

They are supposed to seek it out the exact same way that abused women do. Men could, you know, campaign for more support for male victims of violence, the way women have done for decades rather than doing fuck all and then crying 'sexist' when women try to help each other.

[Brightside65]

2 woman per week die as a result of domestic violence - men being the perpetrator!

Targeted messages need to happen!

[CosyNook]

Oh no it's the train railway station poster thread all over again.....

[BrewD]

This isn't a "woman's campaign against domestic violence" - the fact that people think it is surely shows the problem. This is a government campaign against domestic violence and abusive relationships in general.

It's a shame that people are reacting to people pointing out that it's a shame no male abuse victims were depicted, or indeed that none of the relationships depicted were LGBT, by saying "So what it's OURS!!" just proves the point.

For years I've said that TV campaigns for things like cancer overlook men and the response is always "SO what!! it's ours!!!!!" as if women own cancer or something. I think it's a shame that people become possessive over such a horrible thing such as cancer or domestic violence to the point where anyone wanting any victims that aren't themselves depicted in any promotions get jumped on.

LGBT people (men including women) are victims of domestic abuse and it's not unreasonable to think that in a government backed campaign against domestic abuse that this should be depicted

[LurcioAgain]

Is it just me who's curious as to why someone rocks up on mumsnet for the first time today, and chooses as their username a name almost identical to a frequent poster in the feminism section, only does so in order to post anti-women, MRA shite?

[swiggityswoogity]

Oh look. Turns out women do not actually want TV to accurately represent society after all.

Shall be sure to quote this thread next time women's lack of representation on company boards or news casters is mentioned

[pastmyduedate0208]

BrewD. Really, campaigns for cancer overlook men ??!

Last I saw prostate cancer campaign depicted only men.
Testicular cancer depicted men...
Surprisingly breast cancer depicted mainly women. Cervical cancer depicted women.
How terribly sexist!

Funnily enough, this campaign features the sex most likely to die from DV. Which is women.

How sexist of the campaign.

[BrewD]

But this isn't a woman's campaign - it's a tax payer funded campaign.

What logic dictates that everything that's paid for by taxation, such as a govt awareness campaign which #dispespectnobody is, is "womens" and men have to fund their own?

It's tragic people actually are so possessive over serious shit like this to the point where they actually get offended when people think it'd be a good idea if more than one sort of victim is depicted or that more than one kind of relationship needs to be the focus of it.

So from now on is the rule that any government-backed awareness campaign is exclusively for heterosexual women and that everyone else has to set up their own government and pay taxes exclusive to them to be included in anything?

As someone who knows someone in a same-sex relationship now that's very abusive and who knows the stigma surrounding men seeking help in that situation it angers me this childish ownership over issues like this.

[pastmyduedate0208]

Women Are not possessing the violence. Men are possessing the violence which includes male-to-male homosexual DV. Why should women fix male homosexual DV?

[BrewD]

Incidentally it also suggests that only men can be perpetrators of abuse - something very unhelpful to females in a same-sex relationships to, like men, find themselves completely excluded by this campaign, or at least the advert through which the campaign promotes itself.

Let me guess:

If lesbians want a campaign against domestic abuse they should get their own and stop whining! This is for the straight women, right girls?

[2rebecca]

I hate the word "disrespect". Usually said by male thugs if you look at them or disagree with them "you dissin me?"
Just be pleasant to people. Respect is different and has a degree of servility that's often unhealthy.

[BrewD]

pastmyduddates0208 - this isn't 'women'

Why are so many people under the impression this is a 'straight women only awareness campaign'

Multiple people have now indicated that's what they think the 'Disrespect Nobody' campaign is - it isn't.

Doesn't this misconception just underline the problem?

[SimonLeBonOnAndOn]

I don't like it because ' disrespect nobody' makes no sense. It's stupid. Hate the talking groun too,

[cornishmaia]

Voldys gone mouldy said As someone has pointed out, the conditioning of women to accept violence is part of mainstream society
This but for men too. By slamming down calling the menz whingers women are conditioning them to believe they don't deserve to say we need help too. Which then means that they become more vulnerable and abusive male AND female partners get a bigger grasp on them.
Considering that this is an advert for domestic abuse against everyone, then it should reflect that by showing a wider variety of relationships.

[grannytomine]

What's wrong with just campaigning against DV whether it is against men or women. The fact that it happens to women more often doesn't make it OK to abuse men. I think there is probably alot more DV by women to men than is ever reported because no one takes it seriously. I remember when there was the same attitude to DV by men to women. DV is never OK.

[PrettyBrightFireflies]

But this isn't a woman's campaign - it's a tax payer funded campaign

And that means, as a PP said, that there is a finite budget.

So, the Home Office have a choice. Commission a generic DV awareness advert that covers all potential victims and perpetrators, or a more targeted, and more effective advert, targeted at the statistically most prevalent victims.

These ads are dreamt up by the grey suits at Whitehall; they are created by the same professionals who create advertising campaigns for multinational companies. And they will have advised the Home Office on the impact of having a wider mix of victims portrayed in the ad.