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To ask a lodger if they're away??

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JayTay · 21/06/2015 14:14

I've rented out rooms in my homes for 20 years, always to 20something girls. For the last 3/4 months for the first time I have a male lodger, 39, never married, no kids, serial monogamist from what I can work out, lived with ex's in their houses, never owned a home of his own. He travels frequently but NEVER tells me if he's away. EVERY previous lodger has always automatically told me if they're going to be away overnight or going on holiday or whatever, and vice versa, never had to ask. I've asked a few times in the last few months that he let me know if he's away and our WhatsApp conversation is a constant repeat of the same conversation:
Me: Are you away??
Him: Why?
Me: excuse/reason can you just let me know if you're going to be away, thanks!
Him: Oh... Erm... ok, sorry.

I think he thinks I'm being a controlling girlfriend or mother type trying to check up on him or something but I want to know for a number of reasons which I've explained to him so many times now. He's renting my spare bedroom in my small 2 bed house and we share bathroom, kitchen, entrance, hall, etc so he's very much in my home and we're on top of each other.

  • if I'm on my own I might double bolt the door from the inside at night, I won't if he's coming back
  • if I know he's coming back I won't worry if I hear noises at midnight and think a mad axe murderer has broken in
  • if I'm on my own I may nip to the loo at 3am in just my pants and leave the bedroom & bathroom doors open/unlocked & won't flush. If he's here I obviously won't do that but I cosleep with a 7month old and putting on clothes, closing doors, locking the bathroom, flushing etc risks waking her, and if she were to cry or roll I'm that much slower to hear and get back to her through 2 closed/locked doors.
  • I'm on my own with the baby and sometimes I have to leave her to cry and wait for me while I do things like clean up after dinner, Hoover and mop, clean the bathroom, get my washing out the machine, all in case he's coming back and will want to use these things. If I know he's not I might leave it till the morning or something and saves the baby being left to cry or waiting for her bath and bed getting overtired which makes me feel like shit but I feel I have to keep the place spotless and empty the machine straight away if he's here.
  • he has been out since Friday and left his bedroom windows open and last night we had torrential rain which woke me up, had I known he wasn't back I'd have closed his windows.
  • baby has a horrible cold at the moment and was so snotty and miserable last night, had I known he was out i'd have tried her in a steamy bathroom but as its next to his room I didn't want to disturb him.
  • because he works shifts I try to keep her quiet as possible and I don't sing to her or squeal and play till I know if he's out or sleeping and I feel it's not fair to her if he's out and I'm staying silent and shushing her in her own home for nothing.
  • it's driving me mad and making me feel really gross and uncomfortable but his room STINKS and he's not washed his bedsheets since he moved in, not hoovered or mopped or taken his bins out or taken dirty cups down since he moved in and if I know he's away it's driving me mad enough to go in and wash his sheets, open the windows, mop, wash the cups and empty the bins, open the curtains FFS before the neighbours think someone has died in there and a family of rats move in. It's not my job and probably not my place to do this but that's my daughter's room, her bed, her curtains, and this is my home and the smell is awful. I'm going to have to burn her mattress when he goes and buy a new one. :( When I have opened the windows you can smell it in the garden, and I'm desperately trying to stop the rest of the house stinking too. God help me in the winter when I can't leave all the rest of the windows open - the only good thing at the moment is I have 2 hall windows putside his room I can leave open but won't be able to in the winter. :( Honestly he's like a teenage boy. He's 39 years old!! It's horrible. :(
  • the house is on the market and it's disgusting for viewings and I don't want them thinking that's me so if he's away I'll pop in and air it out and check it's not too disgusting for viewings!!


Surely it's basic common courtesy just to say in passing to someone you live with that you're going to be away for a few days?? Is this a girl/safety thing that the previous ones have all automatically just said "oh by the way I'm away this weekend" and men have never had to do this? Is it a mysogynistic/chauvinistic thing he's not "answering to"/"being controlled by" some woman? Is it a bit of a creep thing - let's see if I can catch her in her pants one day (I regret it now but I did joke about this in the early days and he's made borderline creepy "jokes" CONSTANTLY since). Is it an immature thing, a laugh to wind me up? Does he just genuinely not see any reason or need to tell me, it's not my business, he pays his rent so that's all I need to be concerned with? AIBU to ask him to just let me know?
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Thetruthshallmakeyefret · 22/06/2015 18:16

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mileend2bermondsey · 22/06/2015 18:19

Not being rude OP but are you actually going to do/say anything to him or just keep whinging on here hoping that will somehow miraculously change his attitude?

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QuintShhhhhh · 22/06/2015 18:29

Just give him notice. He is an adult. Not your job to raise him!

Next lodger, make sure they are 100% aware of your house rules.

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mileend2bermondsey · 22/06/2015 18:34

haha x post thetruth Grin

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atonofwashing · 22/06/2015 18:42

Give him his notice. Simple. You are not happy and not going to be til he's gone. It's not worth the money. If you need lodgers, revert back to the younger female ones.

We've taken in 20 something ladies and it worked really well, except for one. I gave her plenty of notice and she left.

Off the top of my head, it's easier to ask a lodger to leave. Did he sign a contract or was it a case of "if either of us is unhappy, you leave"?

Life is just to short to be unhappy in your own home.
good luck

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Robstersgirl · 22/06/2015 18:56

Maybe he's in a unsettled relationship? Sounds like it to me, therefore probably doesn't know when he'll be back?

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ivykaty44 · 22/06/2015 19:01

Give him notice to leave as its not working out

It will not change and what's the point ...

Get another lodger, some are good others are OK and the odd one is annoying

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 22/06/2015 20:22

Sounds grim!

Think you've wasted way too much time trying to make him behave like a human.

Give him immediate notice!

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Gabilan · 22/06/2015 21:15

OP it sounds as if you're tiptoeing around like a guest in someone else's home whilst your lodger lounges around as if he owns the place. I'm all for lodgers feeling comfortable and secure, but you can't carry on like that.

Give him notice then get in touch with your nearest uni, unless it's too far away, and advertise for a Mon-Fri lodger. There are plenty of postdocs in uni towns who want clean lodgings during the week but are on short-term contracts and aren't looking for anything permanent. Or contact any local language schools and see if you can have students staying short term. My mum had language students lodging and they pay quite well. It will make it easier to sell the house and if you don't like one of them, they won't be there for long.

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JayTay · 22/06/2015 21:24

I am going to ask him to go and get someone else in. He is treating me & the house with no respect at all. I'm not sure who he thinks is cleaning up after him unless he thinks I have a little Cif Fairy going round each night!

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MissBananaMama · 22/06/2015 21:38

Sounds awful OP. With a lodger you really need to get on as you are living in each other's space. You obviously don't get on and aren't compatible house mates. Just tell him to go

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nikinaki · 22/06/2015 21:56

omg I am in shock reading all of this! I understand you need the money Op but this is NOT ideal for a baby. I can't believe you have let it go on this long. either find a new lodger who can understand your babies needs or just take a break from lodgers while your DC needs full attention. This is not a place for a baby.

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atonofwashing · 22/06/2015 22:10

//www.spareroom.co.uk

If don't already use it, I recommend it.

And yes, he is not a suitable housemate for a baby. Our ds was only 6 when we took in our first lodger and she was just 20 and had a much younger sibling so was quite used to having young children around.

best of luck with the new lodger. x

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notinagreatplace · 22/06/2015 22:29

I realise this is off topic but I just realised that you must have become a home owner really young if you've been renting out rooms for 20 years and also have a baby.

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JayTay · 22/06/2015 22:39

19 when I got my first house. Had a lucky start. :)

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RattieofCatan · 23/06/2015 09:06

I can second spareroom. I've found all of my lodgings on there. Though I agree that you may find it difficult finding a lodger with a baby. I lived with a toddler for few months and that was difficult. I'm a nanny and do proxy parenting so I'm not exactly inexperienced with toddlers! The nighttime noise made our lives very difficult (I live with my husband) and the only reason we stuck it out was because we knew that they were taking an extended trip to visit the blokes family in South America and there would be a new lodger. The lodger who took their room whilst they were away was a filty fucker and we ended up moving because of him in the end!

And also be aware that spareroom do not give a shit if people are lying in ads. We've been to quite a few really dodgy places and also to places where people are outright lying about various factors that are important, spareroom said that they couldn't do anything about that despite (at the time) stating that they were very keen to hear about poeple who were not-so genuine.

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TheClacksAreDown · 23/06/2015 09:25

Op you're doing the right thing in getting rid of him. But when you're readvertising and seeing potential lodgers you need to be really clear about some important points to avoid another problem down the track. In particular you need to be clear:

  • that you have a baby
  • that the house is up for sale so tenant must be willing for potential purchasers to view their room and keep it in a suitable state at all times
  • that all outdoor shoes must be taken off at the door (that sign is rather passive agressive IMO)
  • that they will need to be be very aware of issues around baby proofing and willing to comply with it
  • that you may seek to put new restrictions on as the child grows
  • neither smoking nor vaping is OK in the house
  • that you want to know when they will be away.


Because, to be frank, that is a lot of stuff that will grate with many potential lodgers. In your circumstances it is all understandable but you'll appreciate it is a world away from flatsharing with other 20 somethings.
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