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to think our lovely family wont ever be the same now

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tigerpug · 24/07/2014 23:34

big dramatic title, perhaps less dramatic content (although not for me)

After a year or so of assessments, yesterday our lovely 3 yo DS was officially diagnosed with autism. My head is reeling. I knew that he was different to his peers from a very young age, but after years of reassuring comments like "boys will be boys" etc I honestly thought that I was overreacting/overthinking it all and that he wouldn't be diagnosed with autism.

Yesterday I was told that he will always be autistic, and that it would become more obvious and problematic when he starts school. I do wish the consultant had been a bit 'softer' in her approach, and that I had asked DH to come along with DS and I for support, but in a way I suppose it was a relief to put an end to the 'is he isn't he' debate that played in on a constant loop in my head.

DS is kind, happy, confident - perhaps overly so, which is the main cause for concern. He struggles with the social side of things, he gets overly excited and over confident, which I think causes other children at pre school etc to move away from him, I think he can be seen as an annoyance - loud and bouncy. We are new to the area and consequently I dont have a network of friends with children to conjure up throughout the holidays. He has no real friends, although is desperate for some. He asks about birthday parties, best friends etc, things he hears about but hasn't really been able to participate in. Thinking like this breaks my heart.

With 6 weeks ahead of us, I decided to take him and DS2 to the park today for him to let off steam. He approached a group of older children and straight away joined in their game of standing on the roundabout, whooping with happiness, constantly chatting and babbling and repeating certain phrases they were using (he does this a lot). They looked at him like he was mad, laughed at him, told him to stand on the roundabout and took it on turns to try and knock him off it (by pushing the roundabout faster and faster - before I had to intervene). They tired of the game and then just kept running away from him. He asked me where his new friends had gone. I am not a crier, I am rarely emotional. However, I sat at the side of the park watching it all and sobbing, entire body heaving sobs.

I think I need time to let the news sink in. There are many things to be grateful for, including the fact that DS is unaffected by many of the traits that can go with ASD. But at the moment I just dont feel like I can cope with the constant feeling of sadness for him. I would do anything for him, but I cant get him a friend can i? Or protect him from situations like today, which will happen so many times in his childhood. I have been keeping a brave face as best I can, but husband is away tonight and I am lying in bed feeling dreadful.

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AppleAndMelon · 25/07/2014 01:02

Two of my children have chosen friends who have aspergers. Both are lovely, lovely children. I have explained to my children that their brains work in a different way sometimes, but that they should understand that and they fully 'get' when their friends don't behave as they expect them to.

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SallyMcgally · 25/07/2014 01:03

Thanks for your and your gorgeous boy! One of the sweetest, loveliest boys in my DS's (mainstream) school is autistic. He manages beautifully and has lots of friends. He actually manages a lot better than loads of them without special needs. My DS is not autistic, but is dyspraxic which makes him vulnerable to bullying, so I do empathise with the sobbing on your child's behalf. Be gentle with yourself, and cherish your little boy who sounds just lovely.
Btw 3 is still quite small for bfs and parties etc. I wouldn't worry too much about that just yet xxx

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appealtakingovermylife · 25/07/2014 01:18

Hi, hugs to you first:)
What you're feeling right now is completely normal,I've been there.
My ds is 11, left his primary school yesterday, and has asc.

I had to fight to be heard, he wasn't "typical" autism, if there is such a thing, but I knew.
After 4 years of tests/observations/assessments we got his diagnosis at 8 years 8 months.
My ds has struggled with friendship issues right through school but he decided to tell his class about his autism so they could try and understand.
He was in year 5 and was 10 years old.
The response was amazing:) his friends accept his quirks, his obsessions, his anxiety, and so do I. Acceptance is the first step.
There will be lots ahead of you, lots of worry etc but lots and lots of happy times.
Things do get better, you may not see that now but it will.
I wouldn't change a single thing about my son. He is not defined by autism. I used to make excuses for certain things when he was younger but you learn to differentiate between behaviours he can control, and those he can't.
You will learn what works for your ds and your family, there is no right or wrong.
Enjoy your little boy, he will make you so proud.
Life will never be dull that's for sure:)

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meltedmonterayjack · 25/07/2014 05:49

First of all - hugs.
Although you knew that your ds was different to his peers, it's still going to be a shock to get a diagnosis. And you need time to get over that shock. As others have said, your ds is exactly the same little boy he was yesterday and your family is exactly the same family it was yesterday. But getting that diagnosis is bound to make everything feel very different and be unsettling and worrying.

Your little one sounds great. It must be so hard to see other children moving away from him or older children laughing at him. DS will have lots of support and can learn how to tone down his tendency to be exuberant and overly bouncy. At 3, friendships are very volatile things as children are only just learning how to begin to play with others as opposed to alongside them. So try not to worry about him not having real friends at this age.

Allow yourself time to get over the shock.

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saintlyjimjams · 25/07/2014 05:59

It'll get easier (severely autistic 15 year old son). I don't cry in public much anymore - and when I do it's because people are being nice. You'll get better at telling people unpleasant to bog off as well. I tend to say 'there's no need to stare' - politely - but it sends people on their way.

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ProudAS · 25/07/2014 06:24

I've got autism and went through similar emotions after diagnosis but was better off knowing than not and would much rather have been diagnosed at 3 (I was 30).

My DF now says he couldn't be prouder of me.

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 06:26

Hi op.

Number 1. I'd not look at the park situation like you are doing. I'd look at it like this, you have raised a lovely happy friendly little boy and those boys mums have raised bullies. Be proud of your boy.

Second, whoever told you it WILL get worse was talking out of their arse. They can struggle at school because of the business and noise, some thrive off the routine. My DS could never go to a park and play with other children, even now at 8, so your son has every chance of loving school, and if he struggles, there's plenty of ways school can help.

Your son hasn't changed. He just has a label, one that means so many different things for different children. He's got a loving mum, he'll be fine Smile

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Holfin · 25/07/2014 06:30

I clicked on this thread thinking that it how I feel, not realising it was for the exact same reason. I was told a couple of weeks ago my DS is most likely autistic and my DD is also being assessed for it too. I cannot think to the future at he moment it is to scary so am just going day to day. Sorry I have no advice OP but you are not alone in feeling like this.

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 06:39

Also, things like this should never happen to your child, no matter what his diagnosis.

They've happened to mine Hmm once in a skate park a little boy was screaming in his face constantly because he's weird. Little boys dad stood right there. I told the little boys dad to stop him, he ignored me. I told the boy to stop, he ignored me. Eventually DS turned around and punched him in the face Shock

Obviously I had to tell DS not to hit? I don't ever want him to think that's ok.but I didn't want to let the boys dad think it was all DSs fault so I said "we don't punch bullies DS" and took him to TO.

The rest of the lads at the skate park immediately came right over to me and DS to check that DS was ok after that boy was bullying DS. The boys dad looked confused, then embarrassed, then they left.

Most kids aren't bullies. Most kids are lovely, like the rest of the lads there who were shocked at the boys bullying behaviour. Some kids have parents that don't know how to teach them right from wrong. It's not your sons fault.

He'll make amazing friends at school. His differences will be explained sensibly (if you want them to be) and you'll find 80-90% of children accepting and lovely Smile

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 06:47

Holfin, best not to think about the future at all, you can't predict it, you just can't.

My son went from being extremely aggressive and anxious constantly, to the most gentle child I know, in the space of about 9 months, he's 8 so not a baby either.

I'm 'lucky' in that my child has a brain problem, his brain failed and he lost all his skills, I was told he would die in childhood, then I was told he wouldn't after a brain scan and he started regaining some skills. So autism wasn't really high on my concerns until I had already accepted it. But working with parents I find they do go through a grieving process.

Have either of you read the poem holland? I think that's what it's called. It has mixed reviews, some people love it and it helps. It's about the process of diagnosis for your child and the process of acceptance. I'll find it for you.

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 06:49

WELCOME TO HOLLAND

by
Emily Perl Kingsley.

c1987 by Emily Perl Kingsley. All rights reserved

I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with a disability - to try to help people who have not shared that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this......



When you're going to have a baby, it's like planning a fabulous vacation trip - to Italy. You buy a bunch of guide books and make your wonderful plans. The Coliseum. The Michelangelo David. The gondolas in Venice. You may learn some handy phrases in Italian. It's all very exciting.



After months of eager anticipation, the day finally arrives. You pack your bags and off you go. Several hours later, the plane lands. The stewardess comes in and says, "Welcome to Holland."



"Holland?!?" you say. "What do you mean Holland?? I signed up for Italy! I'm supposed to be in Italy. All my life I've dreamed of going to Italy."



But there's been a change in the flight plan. They've landed in Holland and there you must stay.



The important thing is that they haven't taken you to a horrible, disgusting, filthy place, full of pestilence, famine and disease. It's just a different place.



So you must go out and buy new guide books. And you must learn a whole new language. And you will meet a whole new group of people you would never have met.



It's just a different place. It's slower-paced than Italy, less flashy than Italy. But after you've been there for a while and you catch your breath, you look around.... and you begin to notice that Holland has windmills....and Holland has tulips. Holland even has Rembrandts.



But everyone you know is busy coming and going from Italy... and they're all bragging about what a wonderful time they had there. And for the rest of your life, you will say "Yes, that's where I was supposed to go. That's what I had planned."


And the pain of that will never, ever, ever, ever go away... because the loss of that dream is a very very significant loss.


But... if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn't get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things ... about Holland.

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LIttleMissTickles · 25/07/2014 06:54

Wow, Hurr1cane, that's excellent.

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tigerpug · 25/07/2014 06:57

Holfin, we really aren't on our own with this are we?

Thank you all for your kind words and support. I feel more justified in how i reacted yesterday at the park. Perhaps because i wasn't expecting the diagnosis I hadn't taken the time to think about how i would and should feel if it happened.

After reading all your replies, I am quite surprised at my DS being diagnosed so young. He is 3.7yo, and a lot younger than most of the other children mentioned in this thread. Positively, I hope this is something we can use to our advantage, especially in the next 12 months before he starts school.

I have been really encouraged by those who have mentioned that their own DC are friends with someone with autism. I am worried about the future for DS but to be honest, at the moment if I could wish for anything it would be for him to have a friend or a small network of friends. I think this, more than anything we (parents, doctors, SALT) can offer would make the biggest difference to him right now.

Some advice from all you wise mumsnetters. I have not talked to anyone about DSs suspected autism, only a few family members and the pre school staff know. I intentionally didn't do this because I didn't feel it would be right to label him with something like this, only to find out that it wasn't autism but for the label to still stick in peoples minds. Now that we have a diagnosis should we be open with friends, family, the mums I am starting to chat to in the parks here? I dont know if i could be one of these people who could be totally open and 'so what' about it, maybe that will come in time. But do you think it might help to relieve those unsettling moments when DS is being loud/overly familiar/'different'. I am not sure how easy it is for other people to pick up on those moments, obviously I am very sensitive about it all and think he can be obviously different. I do often get comments from people who say 'he is a live wire isn't he' and such like - normally old ladies in the supermarket!

A few of you have mentioned that there is more understanding of autism and what it means to be autistic. What were your experiences of telling people like school mums. How did they react? What questions did they ask? We recent moved to a quiet, sleepy town (its all a bit Enid Blyton here!) and I do worry about peoples reactions now, and also as he grows up.

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tigerpug · 25/07/2014 07:01

Hurr1cane, I wish that our consultant has read that to me on Wednesday morning, I think I would have left the hospital feeling quite different! Thank you.

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 07:15

I'm open and honest about it.DS doesn't know I don't think but he's not really that aware.


Most people are wonderful, they ask questions and they talk to their children. Some people aren't nice but they're the minority and I just feel sorry for those people because they have ignorance and ignorance is a terrible thing to have Wink

There's loads of poems and stuff that help me when I'm feeling a bit shit after a bad day. Although most days are amazing Smile

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saffronwblue · 25/07/2014 07:16

Oh tiger I remember my day of tears. It was not when DD was diagnosed (aged 10) but when I went into school to talk to her teacher about it. Was completely blindsided by tears and was a terrible snotty snivelling mess in this little meeting room. Poor busy teacher was trying to edge away back to her class, not knowing what to do with the sobbing mother.

Your lovely little boy has a loving and aware mum. He also has a brain that functions a bit differently to others. He will continue to grow and develop and will surprise, frustrate and delight you. xx

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 07:24

I did find the public meltdowns were harder when DS was little. People just assumed he was a bit old for a toddler tantrum and weren't too nice.

I used to just say "are you horrible about all disabled people or just children who can't defend themselves?" It wasn't very nice of me but I found the shock tactic worked to get them to move on and I didn't have the time to explain during meltdown that their nasty comments were sending me over the edge.

Then it suddenly changed, I don't know whether it was his size making it more obvious, or my different way of dealing and talking to him, but one day someone approached me, and I readied myself for the judgement, and they said "I am a nurse, do you need any help or are you coping?" I asked her to pass me his chewlery.

Ever since then I've not encountered nastiness, or maybe I've just got better blinkers on.

But it does get easier, more fun, you make your own friends, people get to know your child and soon you'll feel that this is your 'norm' Smile

Plus the special needs activities after school here are loads better and cheaper than the mainstream ones, lots of fun for me and DS.

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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 25/07/2014 07:31

tiger I don't know how you feel but just wanted to say that you sound lovely as does your gorgeous ds.

Your description of watching him in the park and sobbing has had me blinking back some tears, he'll go a long way with you there to support him, he sounds fab.

Hurr1cane brilliant post!

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insanityscratching · 25/07/2014 07:36

OP, Holfin, I am many years ahead of you as my son is 19 diagnosed with autism at 3 and my daughter is eleven diagnosed with autism at two but I remember how raw it all felt just after diagnosis. I felt my heart was breaking and I was scared.
So what can I tell you? I won't lie and tell you not to worry and everything will be ok because there will be times when you want to scream with frustration or cry with sadness and rave at the injustice of it all but there will also be times when your heart will burst with pride and you will feel truly blessed to be the parent of a child with autism.
Sixteen years after ds was diagnosed when he was non verbal, still in nappies with extreme challenging behaviour he is now the most lovely teen you could wish to meet and is off to college in September to study computer gaming.
Nine years after dd was diagnosed when she was silent and pretty much unresponsive she left her primary on Wednesday and was described as "Little Miss Perfect" as she works hard, gets brilliant results and her behaviour is exemplary. She's off to High School with her friends in September.
Your children will grow up, make progress and you will help them find their own paths but try not to look too far ahead because no one can predict the future and you might miss something beautiful happening in the here and now.
I can really recommend this place for support and understanding from people who know exactly how you feel.

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Hurr1cane · 25/07/2014 07:36

I distinctly remember one woman though. Who I ended up not knowing whether to feel annoyed by or sorry for.

DS was having a meltdown in tesco. I used to take him to buy one little toy car, then leave, and eventually we worked up slowly to bigger trips.

Anyway my friend was with me and wandered down the aisle a bit with her own autistic son because she didn't want him getting bothered by the noise of DS, when a heavily pregnant woman said to her, pointing at me "that's terrible isn't it, my child won't ever behave like that" while rubbing her belly. My friend just said "that little boy is disabled" apparently the woman looked really shocked and apologised and walked off.

It was probably her realisation moment that actually, you don't have complete control of your child's life.

We probably all have our expectations when we are pregnant. I know I was going to be the perfect mum and my child was going to be top of everything and never have a tantrum.

People don't always mean to be mean. They just sometimes really don't know. Especially if they've never come across something.

I went home feeling really bad for the woman who probably felt awful after that incident. Hmm

By the way, my DS is perfect in every way. I like him more than any other human in the world.

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appealtakingovermylife · 25/07/2014 07:41

My advice would be to talk to people about autism.
A lot of people have a perception of what it is but that's not always the reality.
Most people are lovely about it and very accepting.
My ds is big and tall for his age and suffers with terrible anxiety. I've had to explain his condition several times in public as it could come across like he's a teenager when in fact he's 11.
Many of the mums in ds class were unaware of his condition, some were surprised, others I presume realised but didn't say.
The spectrum is vast, there is no "one size fits all" and you will meet many children yourself who are autistic but not a bit like your little boy.
I think a good routine helps and once he's old enough to understand properly, be honest and open with him.
There are so many people who are walking in your shoes, walk with them, find out about local support groups/autism friendly swims/cinema.
There is so much help out there, when you're ready, get involved. It helps to know you're not on your own.
The best advice I received from my son's doctor at Alder hey was to "play on his strengths and work on his weaknesses"
You're stronger than you realise:)

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OwlinaTree · 25/07/2014 07:50

Haven't read the whole thread but this might be a starting point to finding activities and support groups in your area parent partnership .

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michellestub1965 · 25/07/2014 07:55

Your family is still lovely
You have all arrived at a different destination to the one that you had planned.

There is so much support out there. I wish you luck you need all the professionals on side- good luck with all the form filling! Now is a tough time for you you are feeling raw many of us know that.

He is your son you love him you fight for him be his champion you will develop coping strategies you will be magnificent

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gamerchick · 25/07/2014 07:56

I think the social thing is the most hardest thing to deal with when you have a youngling with ASD. Its a pang for any mother of any child who struggles to make friends when they so desperately want to but watching them be the butt of jokes when they are just so grateful to be included is one of the most rage inducing things for a mother of a SN kid to witness.

Re the telling people... I just tell people as and when. IME I've noticed a marked difference in how mothers react to dads. mothers act as though he's an unexploded bomb around their own kids and dads make the effort to include him in what they're doing. It's fascinating really.

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gamerchick · 25/07/2014 08:00

and put in for his DLA, extra money comes in handy for paying for things to help him grow into the world.

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