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AIBU?

to be completely torn between career and family life?

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MamaSmurf99 · 03/03/2014 15:03

I have always wanted to teach. However, I also thought I was infertile until I fell pregnant with dd1. I now have two dd2's age 5 years and 15 months. They are more important to me than anything. My dp of 3 years wants us to move to live with him. He was meant to move to live with us before dd2 was born but complications with his exW and his children meant this changed at the last minute. This is true, and not an excuse on his part.

I am in the end stages of my degree. Dp wants to live together once I've graduated. This means I cannot afford to train as a teacher. I would love to all live together, and would be happy to be a SAHM until the children are all 9/10 which he is happy to support but then what? I'd be older and unqualified and I don't want to end up working in a supermarket and be bitter that I didn't go for my ambition.

In an ideal world I'd continue working part-time and self-employed until dd2 is 3 then train as a teacher. This would mean not living together for around 3 years which he hates the thought of but would support. The kids and I are settled and in a routine so would continue to cope fine. If I move in with him I'd have to quit my job as the childcare costs wouldn't be covered. I know I should train this year and get it done then move in with him but I hate the thought of dd2 being in childcare so much so young and would not be able to fully commit to my training because of that.

Moving in with him doesn't mean seeing him any more than we currently do as he works long hours and can't be relied on to do anything around the house or with the kids. But I would like to be a normal family and just enjoy life. If any of these ramblings have remotely made sense to you, perhaps you can advise and tell me if iabu in what I want and for having no clue what to do?

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winterlace · 04/03/2014 07:23

I don't know. Why do you want to teach? Some of my friends did it after having children and couldn't even get jobs so I'm not sure it would necessarily be the answer to everything. But I don't think you're torn just reconsidering your relationship and it does sound odd sorry.

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winterlace · 04/03/2014 07:29

Actually this thread has made me quite angry. Your DP is the dad of your children? Certainly the youngest? Yet doesn't live with you. He must earn a comfortable amount to be able to support you as a SAHM for the next 9 years.

That grant is for single parents and as far as I can see you are a single parent by choice and keeping your partner away so you get the grant and can qualify as something which earns decent money - I'm sorry but I think that's totally our of order. I'd love to retrain but we can't afford it: oh well, that's life. Id love to be a SAHM but we can't afford it: oh well, that's life.

You have two children and a partner and need to look at what you can afford to do based on that.

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Tryharder · 04/03/2014 07:40

Who's decision was it that you don't live together now? I presume you do do so you can claim benefits.

These sorts of threads wind me up a bit because your DP should be living with you and supporting the children he has had.

Unless of course you haven't let him move in with you because you want the childcare paid for.


But really why should the taxpayer pay for you when you have a partner who is working?

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MrsMook · 04/03/2014 07:41

I wouldn't want to train to teach with such a young, dependant child. I've just returned to teaching and have a 10m and 3 year old. By the time they're settled in bed, I'm wiped out. I'm glad it's 3 days a week as I still have time with them. In PGCE days, I'd be working until 1am and was permanently exhausted, without children compromising my sleep. The jobs market is poor and lots of schools are making redundancies. Many NQTs drop out without ever teaching. Supply teaching and childcare are totally incompatible.
Training to teach is such a huge investment of time and energy for an uncertain outcome at present

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OTheHugeManatee · 04/03/2014 07:42

Don't move in with him.

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MyNameIsKenAdams · 04/03/2014 07:45

How much child support does he pay you?

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OTheHugeManatee · 04/03/2014 07:46

Oh wow, when I posted I hadn't seen that they (or at least the youngest) are HIS kids and you're choosing to live alone to milk single parent grants Hmm

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merrymouse · 04/03/2014 07:48

Is there another job you could do apart from teacher?

If you are in the end stages of your degree surely you have more job and training options than working in a supermarket?

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TeamWill · 04/03/2014 07:57

I wouldn't describe moving in with this man as family life.
Im afraid you are kidding yourself and will lose out on any career prospects that you have to become this mans skivvy.

There is a thread on here atm where women are describing this "responsible for everything" trap they are in.
Put yourself and your DC first Op.

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fideline · 04/03/2014 08:04

Some posters are being unhelpful and rather rude.

The so called cost to the tax payer will be much higher if the OP moves in with her boyfriend and then the relationship breaks up with her still not having a career with which to support herself.

Once she is qualified in something (not necessarily teaching) she will require smaller (or no) state top-ups long term, regardless of her relationship status.

Driving her off her own thread with all this ridiculous Daily Mail style rhetoric is not going to help her get advice on her predicament, either.

Pay no attention OP.

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caramelwaffle · 04/03/2014 08:28

What do you see yourself doing in five or ten years time?

Do you have definite plans for which areas/schools you will applying for jobs or placements?

Which nurseries/schools do your have in mind for your own children? And which childcare do you have in mind to enable this?

Will you specialise? Do you need further training?

Concentrate on the core needs of your children and yourself.

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Ticklefeet · 04/03/2014 09:07

Thinking about the other thread on benefit fraud, I'm not sure this is any different, not living with a partner /partner working away from home, does not stop them being 'in a relationship as if married' in fact, plans to get married are one of the indicators of a relationship, as are having children together.

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ISeeYouShiverWithAntici · 04/03/2014 09:09

so he'd gain someone to keep house and take care of all things domestic

what would you get out of it?
you'd lose your career, you wouldn't see him any more than you do now, and you'd just be the domestic drudge for a man who claims to not even be able to wash a plate.

what's in it for you?

You won't even have the legal protection of marriage?

I am not being mean, honestly Grin I sincerely can't see a benefit to you. You're just going to be on here in a year, tearing your hair out because you gave up your dream of being a teacher to move in with a bloke you hardly see and who does sweet fa on the domestic front.

I mean, I totally understand why he wants you over there. I don't understand why you're so keen.

I assume also that you would take some responsibility for the step children? They would visit? You would provide some care, cooking, cleaning, etc?

In your shoes, I'd compromise on the childcare. It won't hurt your child one little bit. Get the qualifications first. Then you can go there if it would still be your choice to do so, get married, have the career you want and be able to afford childcare and possibly a cleaner.

In the meantime, nothing much changes for him. He still sees you as much as he does now and would then, and he still has his current cleaner.

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fideline · 04/03/2014 09:11

What Step DC? Have i misread?

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ISeeYouShiverWithAntici · 04/03/2014 09:21

sorry, that was an assumption on my part that his children with his ex wife would spend time at his house, and since he works long hours and does nothing domestically, this would be another thing picked up by the OP

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ISeeYouShiverWithAntici · 04/03/2014 09:22

"He was meant to move to live with us before dd2 was born but complications with his exW and his children meant this changed at the last minute. "

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fideline · 04/03/2014 09:27

Aha. Only mention they got.

Does he have shared residence OP?

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Sharaluck · 04/03/2014 10:17

Imo waiting years to move in together sounds a bit like wasting years of your family life.

Why isn't he more motivated to live together now? Why is he happy with you being effectively a single mother of his dd?

I wouldn't be happy with this situation either. While the dc are young he seems to be off having a bachelor life without putting in his fair share of parenting!

Claiming single parents benefits (if you are) also sounds fraudulent if he is the father of your dd and you are still together and planing a wedding and future lives together but you are living separately.

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merrymouse · 04/03/2014 10:31

A wedding costs £35 each plus around £100 for the ceremony depending on the registry office. If money is tight he needs to save about £85 to cover his share.

However, the reason you get a grant to cover childcare if you are single is that your partner is supposed to help you practically and financially. If he has no plans to help you practically and financially why would you move in with him?

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MamaSmurf99 · 04/03/2014 10:41

I'm not trying to milk the system, at all. I was all prepared to move in before dd2 was born and then his issues with his ex meant I couldn't and we separated for several months. Now he is sorted out he expects us to drop everything to move house, school, childcare, quit job, give up career etc to be with him. After I split from exH, when I was a SAHM, I was completely broke and dd1 and I had to live in a hostel for a year. I want to protect myself and my children from being in that position ever again.

We only see him one evening and one weekend day per week at most so we're hardly claiming to live apart but actually having a family life. I am very much a single parent.

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MamaSmurf99 · 04/03/2014 10:44

No he doesn't have shared residence. He has them overnight every Saturday until Sunday and two overnights in the week.

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ISeeYouShiverWithAntici · 04/03/2014 10:44

I don't bloody blame you.

I really think you should think carefully. he can't just snap his fingers and demand that you do all this because he has decided that now it's convenient for him. He has to accept that it has to be the right time and way for you too.

I mean, you stand to lose your change of a career to be utterly dependant on him,.

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merrymouse · 04/03/2014 10:45

I don't think it is fraudulent on the OP's part if he isn't giving her any money or doing anything practical to enable her to earn money. Fraudulent on his part perhaps.

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RaptorInaPorkPieHat · 04/03/2014 10:48

Now he is sorted out he expects us to drop everything to move house, school, childcare, quit job, give up career etc to be with him

Well that's the nail in the coffin right there isn't it?

Keep training, you are absolutely right to not want to put yourself in a vulnerable position again.

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MamaSmurf99 · 04/03/2014 10:51

He doesn't help me financially, practically or in any which way. Yes, he should be supporting us as he earns enough to but if he won't then I can't force him.

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