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To believe £780 month lone parent benefits income is adequate to live on.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 00:48

There's some myth busting required at last I think.

As a lone parent of two under 6, I receive a total of £780 a month in benefits:

Income Support, Child Tax Credit, Child Benefit, CSA (£5 a week).

I receive full housing benefit for a two bedroom house (£75 shortfall which has to come out of my income support, currently being paid via Housing Discretion Award) which doesnt go into mybank account, it gets paid direct to landlord, and £16 a month council tax shortfall also has to be paid out of income.

I'm on meters and gas and electric are around £20 a week each, some of which pays off accrued debt. Water is deducted directly from my income support via an 'attachment of earnings' type court order.

I don't have loans or credit cards, no landline, no satellite tele, no car, no travel expenses, no socialising costs, don't smoke, my Internet is paid for by someone else although I should have organised a bill swap ages ago Blush and I run an old phone on £10 month contract. My other costs are regular swimming, yoga, wax salon, and I buy school uniform and children's clothing as and when required.

Childcare such as nursery (pre-school), morning and after school clubs are free to those on income support, school holiday clubs are heavily subsidised, as are school meals, dentistry, doctor's prescriptions, council run leisure centre swimming and gym classes, and many other recreation facilities.

My budgeting skills are atrocious but having recently done some sums, I actually have around £250 a month 'spare' from all benefits income. Although for the past year or two I've been constantly overdrawn by around £500 so whenever income is credited, I'm always 'one step forwards, two steps back' amd because of this will never get back in the black again.

So, with better budgeting (I don't buy a regular weekly food shop for instance, instead spend a fortune every few days buying dinners and sundries at the overpriced local Tesco Metro) I just don't understand how so many lone parents claim they can't afford to live on these same benefits.
Even if you have debts, there are features in place to reduce your debt payments to just £1 a week or even write them off altogether as a last resort.

Also, the father of my children earns thousands but fraudulently claims benefits, so he is only required to pay the minimum £2.50 a week per child direct from his benefits. Many lone mothers receive full child support which isn't deducted from their other benefits income, so can be receiving up to £800 a month on top of their benefits depending on what the chikdren's father earns. I have noticed that rarely will lone parents on benefits state this fact or include it in their income along with their complaint.

Yes, it is a struggle trying to support myself and two young children on £780 a month (but mostly because I can't get over this overdraft debt shackle) but on paper, budgeting well, it is entirely doable, and if you are frugal, you could even save a little too.

Why does the Daily Mail stereotype exist that single mothers are rolling in handouts, given the above figures? Just under £195 a week is an adequate income for one adult and two young children, surely..

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TheBigJessie · 13/01/2014 01:34

SP, find out the unit prices for your tariff, and switch to ebico. Stat.

It's a not-for-profit energy supplier who hate meters. I don't get you. Local charity furniture recycling gives away free furniture and appliances. Many towns have them

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allthingsfluffy · 13/01/2014 01:34

local councils have a loan called Remt Assistance Scheme to pay for deposit/advance

If you get them to admit to this fund you are lucky. They referred me to a charity when I needed that. A fucking charity doing the work of the council.

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:35

Id like to learn how they manage to budget better than I That is not why you started the thread.

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CouthyMow · 13/01/2014 01:35

Free household furniture and appliances if you are on benefits??!! Hahahahahahaha maybe in London, love , but not in most other areas of the Country.

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TheBigJessie · 13/01/2014 01:35

Fucked up last post. www.ebico.org.uk/

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Revenger · 13/01/2014 01:36

How can you can you have broadband but no landline? I don't think you've really given a full breakdown if your finances.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:36

coutnyMow I think you've read it wrong. Like you, I said I also spend £20 a week on meters...

The council run Yoga is subsidised to benefits claimants at £3.75 a session. It's a luxury I agree. It helps with my asthma though.

TV license is £12 monthly direct debit.

Water, as stated, is auto deducted from incime support.

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CouthyMow · 13/01/2014 01:36

And free Childcare when you are unemployed? Only if your child has a statement, and THAT'S not easy to get. Preschool here, employed or unemployed is £12 for a half day!!

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:36

Couthy My thoughts exactly. I couldn't even get council to pay to secure my house after some little shits got in, wouldn't even say yes to a door chain. Never mind fucking furniture Grin

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CouthyMow · 13/01/2014 01:37

Charities don't give away furniture for free here - they charge you for the item AND for delivery.

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:38

Why am I paying £24 for TV licence and you only paying £12? I think a few companies are getting phoned tomorrow

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:38

allthingsfluffy Yes I agree, they keep it well hidden :(

I was referred by a DV support worker to the fund.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:39

I'm not in London, mouthyCow, I've seem this projects in West Yorks, Lancs, Wiltshire and the East Midlands.

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 13/01/2014 01:39

OP if you know someone who has the exact same circumstances and costs as you then go and fuckin ask them how they do or dont manage. Everyone has different circumstances so no-one here can enlighten you as to why someone that lives up the road is skint all the time. There are as many reasons as there are people. One example may be that the incomes support was delayed for one reason or another and loans were necessary to survive for 6 weeks.

Try a bit of imagination.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:39

Revenger I don't have a landline. I have mobile wifi.

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CrazyHneedsSleep · 13/01/2014 01:40

Their used to be a Rent assistance Scheme in my area but the government cut my local councils budget and that was one of the first things to go so no doubt a lot of other areas have stopped it

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Revenger · 13/01/2014 01:40

That somebody else pays for? Aren't you meant to declare it if there is somebody regularly paying a bill on your behalf?

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Monty27 · 13/01/2014 01:41

OP 'why the hostitlity?'

Because you're worth it. Now go and get a job. Be part of the poor working community like most of the country.

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:41

I'm in WY and nothing here. When I needed something I had to ask for a budgeting loan thing. Even then it wasn't guaranteed

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TheBigJessie · 13/01/2014 01:41

SP you're what? It's £145.50 for a TV licence! It should be £12. That's the only part of her budget that's realistic!

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:41

SP I paid less because I was behind with payments and asked for a reduction.

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IneedAwittierNickname · 13/01/2014 01:41

Hmm, well I'm also a single parent on benefits. I don't get free child care, or free buses (you did say that didn't you?)
No free furniture or appliances either.
And afaik its actually not the norm for your housing benefit (which is called lha now, and has been for at least 5years here) to be paid direct to the ll. In fact, my local council only do it if you have rent arrears.

Oh and my gas meter used the whole £5 emergency credit in 24 hours, my heating is only on 16, and I don't have a gas cooker!

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:42

Can you pay for 6 months and then nothing 6 months? That's only way I see which explains my £24

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CouthyMow · 13/01/2014 01:42

And you don't get morning and after school clubs here unless you are working. If you can even get a space. EVERYONE here has to pay the same price for the morning and after school clubs, so it would be out of the reach of most IS claimants.

Though my DD and DS1's Secondary school DO offer a breakfast club...breakfast costs £3 a day...I don't use it, I can do the same bowl of cornflakes and glass of orange juice FAR cheaper!

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:42

monty Oh, I see. Yes. My youngest started school two months ago. I'm currently looking for work.

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