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To believe £780 month lone parent benefits income is adequate to live on.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 00:48

There's some myth busting required at last I think.

As a lone parent of two under 6, I receive a total of £780 a month in benefits:

Income Support, Child Tax Credit, Child Benefit, CSA (£5 a week).

I receive full housing benefit for a two bedroom house (£75 shortfall which has to come out of my income support, currently being paid via Housing Discretion Award) which doesnt go into mybank account, it gets paid direct to landlord, and £16 a month council tax shortfall also has to be paid out of income.

I'm on meters and gas and electric are around £20 a week each, some of which pays off accrued debt. Water is deducted directly from my income support via an 'attachment of earnings' type court order.

I don't have loans or credit cards, no landline, no satellite tele, no car, no travel expenses, no socialising costs, don't smoke, my Internet is paid for by someone else although I should have organised a bill swap ages ago Blush and I run an old phone on £10 month contract. My other costs are regular swimming, yoga, wax salon, and I buy school uniform and children's clothing as and when required.

Childcare such as nursery (pre-school), morning and after school clubs are free to those on income support, school holiday clubs are heavily subsidised, as are school meals, dentistry, doctor's prescriptions, council run leisure centre swimming and gym classes, and many other recreation facilities.

My budgeting skills are atrocious but having recently done some sums, I actually have around £250 a month 'spare' from all benefits income. Although for the past year or two I've been constantly overdrawn by around £500 so whenever income is credited, I'm always 'one step forwards, two steps back' amd because of this will never get back in the black again.

So, with better budgeting (I don't buy a regular weekly food shop for instance, instead spend a fortune every few days buying dinners and sundries at the overpriced local Tesco Metro) I just don't understand how so many lone parents claim they can't afford to live on these same benefits.
Even if you have debts, there are features in place to reduce your debt payments to just £1 a week or even write them off altogether as a last resort.

Also, the father of my children earns thousands but fraudulently claims benefits, so he is only required to pay the minimum £2.50 a week per child direct from his benefits. Many lone mothers receive full child support which isn't deducted from their other benefits income, so can be receiving up to £800 a month on top of their benefits depending on what the chikdren's father earns. I have noticed that rarely will lone parents on benefits state this fact or include it in their income along with their complaint.

Yes, it is a struggle trying to support myself and two young children on £780 a month (but mostly because I can't get over this overdraft debt shackle) but on paper, budgeting well, it is entirely doable, and if you are frugal, you could even save a little too.

Why does the Daily Mail stereotype exist that single mothers are rolling in handouts, given the above figures? Just under £195 a week is an adequate income for one adult and two young children, surely..

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:24

Tesco !!! haha, I mean 'those are my total' not 'Tesco'!

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GarlicReturns · 13/01/2014 01:24

Free appliances???!! Where? I was overjoyed to get mine for £60 each off ebay; they are all about 25 years old and worryingly creaky. I have NO idea how I'll replace them when they give up: there's certainly no Aladdin's Cave of electrical goods in this county!

There is one for the families of dead & severely disabled soldiers. None for plain old benefit paupers.

I've got Freesat, btw. It's satellite TV, and it's free.

Strange thread Hmm

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TheBigJessie · 13/01/2014 01:24

Weee-ell, aren't you alright, Jacqueline? I live somewhere almost that good, and I found it through luck (it was up for rental, due to previous tenants leaving to buy their own home) and life experience gained the hard way, as my mother ended up in a remote village once, due to desperation. It was the only landlord she could find who would accept housing benefit and had a vacant property.

P.s my local furniture project charges. And they don't necessarily have what you need when you need it..

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DioneTheDiabolist · 13/01/2014 01:26

No free furniture or appliances here unless you are setting up home having previously been in rehab, prison or a homeless shelter.

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 13/01/2014 01:26

How much hb is paid to your LL because although you dont actuay see that money you still have it towards your living costs. Add that onto your £780 and then you have your total income.

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jacks365 · 13/01/2014 01:27

Whats this about free childcare I didn't get that when I had to claim.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:27

thebigJessie Yes, same as me, also found through luck. It's a small terrace in the centre of a fairly run down part of town but there is good community spirit here.

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 13/01/2014 01:28

What are you failing to understand OP? Differeent people have different circumstances and different expenses. Its not difficult if you apply half a brain cell and think about it.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:28

jacks free pre school nursery place 15 hours a week and free morning amd after school clubs if claiming income support.

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 13/01/2014 01:29

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CrazyHneedsSleep · 13/01/2014 01:29

SP I'm guessing you have storage heaters , They are the worst thing ever and so pointless .
Definitely change your provider and shop around online to get a vague idea of prices & tell BG to naff off the robbing twats

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 13/01/2014 01:29

No free breakfast or afterschool club here. Same price for everyone.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 13/01/2014 01:29

How did you pay for your moves OP and what form of transport did you use when you lived on a moor?

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:30

I could list what I get and what I spend here just like you do but it ain't going to change the fact it barely covers to live.

I don't have money to have a wax or special classes etc. I'm lucky if I have money for trashy mags or a magazine for my son.

I dont get any money from his dad. When I'm desperate and I ask him he might give me £10 which I pay back how generous is he?!

I cant afford to replace appliances so if anything breaks or I need something for the house I receive them as gifts for Xmas or birthday from parents.

There's a reason why food banks exist.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:30

SillyBilly That's why I'm appealing to the MN braincell collective to make up for my clear lack of Smile

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:31

If I wanted my son to stay longer than his 15 hours I have to pay. Not free at all.

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TheBigJessie · 13/01/2014 01:31

So, how about not being so smug, then?

p.s.I once got a furniture grant due to previous homelessness. It didn't cover that much. It was around £250 pounds to move into a totally unfurnished council flat, that didn't even have curtain poles.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:31

Dione local councils have a loan called Remt Assistance Scheme to pay for deposit/advance and I walked everywhere when I lived up there.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:32

Monty why the hostility? This is a genuine thread.

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Revenger · 13/01/2014 01:32

Even rich people get the free 15 hours funding Wink.

So where is this bridge benefit claimant's utopia of which you speak?

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SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 13/01/2014 01:32

Big They ripped the flooring up in this house so we had to pay for.it doing. Light fittings were gone too. I've been told that when I move its likely I will have to take flooring up too!

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CouthyMow · 13/01/2014 01:33

£20 on meters?! WTF are you living in - one room?! I spend £20 a WEEK on my electric meter, and £15-£25 a week on my gas (though do have electric medical equipment to run, and heating has to be on practically 24/7 from around October due to my own disabilities making me go almost hypothermic in the slightest cold)

And yoga?! Fucking hell, how do you afford that? AND shopping in a Tesco Metro, which are far dearer than a large main supermarket. Don't forget, too, that those IN London get extra on their benefits to those living anywhere else, even if you live in the SE where food costs and other costs of living are exactly the same.

Where is your TV license, too? Water - how much do you pay for that? I manage, by being VERY frugal, to pay £40 a month, but cannot cut that any more (when friends with the same amount of DC's pay more like £50-£55) as two if the people in my house HAVE to shower rather than bath due to epilepsy.

Then some of us have NO choice but to pay travel costs to school. Children outside London don't get free, or even 1/2 price travel. It now works out to 5/7 of the cost of an adult fare.

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goldfacegreen · 13/01/2014 01:33

BigJessie I apologise if it sounds smug. That isnt the intent. My situation is almost as the same as many other line parents and Id like to learn how they manage to budget better than I.

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DavidHarewoodsFloozy · 13/01/2014 01:34

And as I said Circumstances Alter Every Case.

When malnutrition rates amongst in particular Lone Mothers are at the highest rates since WW2, I find your asertion quite frankly fantastical.

Are you a Journo fess up.

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