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AIBU?

to be Well Jealous of those with lots of family support ie Babysitting??

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mistyshouse · 10/10/2013 09:17

my friend is jetting off to new york with her dh this morning and her 2 dcs are being looked after for the week by grandparents

this will never happen for me and dh. even though our dparents are relatively young (under 60) as MIL is a selfish arse who rarely babysits and then only for DD, as DS is not her proper grandchild (he is from my previous relationship, therefore she is not interested :( ) yet she constantly babysits her DP's GC who is not her bio GC (this whole MIL story, in itself, is a long story) and my parents both work full time and are not that keen on babysitting for more than a few hours at a time or at a push if we are desperate, overnight. but my mum has a knack of making me feel guilty about it and like a child again when i have to ask her.

we are having DC3 in april and babysitting will become even more scarce as who will want to look after 3 dcs?

aibu to be massively jealous a bit envious of the lucky lucky jammy bastards parents who have loads of babysitting options?

i wouldnt change having my dcs for anything but sometimes i would love a break

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PepperGrinder · 11/10/2013 17:11

RiffyWammal you put it well: who are these people whose response is to assume it's people looking for a freebie and indignant that they can't have it? Sad It's a horrible way to see people.

And you are so right about the link to an earlier time. It's a link to people, too, stories about their mums and dads and brothers and sisters. I can't pass on a character sketch of my MIL as a young girl in a different country: but she could if she wanted to. I really mourn the loss of the link (on dc's behalf).

Plus, it always hurts when someone, anyone, dislikes your child enough to forget to ask about them...never mind never wanting to spend the time, just a little 'How is dc getting along?' might be nice.

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soverylucky · 11/10/2013 17:33

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Chocolateporridge · 12/10/2013 07:59

ohbaby its a large hotel in Scotland, Crieff Hydro, would totally recommend it.

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KaFayOLay · 12/10/2013 08:09

Wow, haven't read all the thread bit from what I've seen, I am in the minority.
I am thankful we live 100's of miles from either set of GP's.
When I used to take my lo's to play areas I always felt extremely sorry for the GP's who looked worn out and quite frankly bored. I used to meet up with one couple and 'mind' their GD whilst they sat and had a brew and a chat. The GM said she was between a rock and a hard place, loved her GD but didn't love having her everyday. Daren't say anything to her daughter in case she took the hump.
Jetting off on holiday without the kids is a whole different thing, it wouldn't be for me. I didn't have kids to exclude them from fun times, thankfully DH is of the same mind Smile

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SomethingOnce · 12/10/2013 09:03

YANBU, OP.

If I'm lucky enough to be fit and well with GC (in about 25 years or so, please, DD!) I will expect to look after them, and be glad to do so.

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Partridge · 12/10/2013 09:12

Apologies as I haven't read the whole thread but I think a distinction needs to be drawn between what is actually being asked of gp - childcare/babysitting or input into gc lives. It is disingenuous to accuse gp of not being involved with gc because they won't babysit or facilitate weekends away (which in my experience is pretty rare).

I have a great relationship with my mum - she sees the gc all thee time, but it is on her terms and I am nearly always there - she loves seeing me parenting my kids and that dynamic is v special in my eyes. I get companionship and to share her brilliant relationship with my kids - a huge help in itself - and she doesn't have the stress of looking after 3 ds on her own. Nobody feels resentful. Yes I haven't had a weekend away without kids for 7 years ( and ds 3 had to sit on my lap for a tooth extraction on wedGrin) as she won't do that kind of childcare, but her input is still enormously valuable.

In summary (after that incoherent ramble) I think it is v unfair to judge gp worth on how much they will take your kids off your hands.

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ssd · 12/10/2013 09:40

I think the bit that posters like happymummyofone seem to miss, is that its the fact our children are missing the emotional bond of having loving grandparents in their lives that hurt the most. Of course, practical help would be great and a night off now and then would be amazing, but its the relationships our kids are missing that's the real killer.

All this "your kids your responsibility" is a load of bitter crap.

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elliejjtiny · 12/10/2013 09:44

YANBU. When I was in hospital having DS4 I was on a ward where partners could stay all day and other people could come for 5 hours a day. Everyone else's partners were there all day and they seemed to have hordes of people there at visiting time. DH could only come for a few minutes a day because he had to look after the other dc's so I was on my own most of the time post section with my baby at the other end of the maternity unit in NICU. DS4 is 4 months old and my parents have seen him once, my sisters never have.

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BlackeyedSusan · 12/10/2013 09:54

op, you are better off than some. my parents are/were too old to have the children. pils are not set up for them either, even their dad does not get them unsupervised. thank god they go to scshool otherwise I would be 24/7. all those adults were still able to build a good relationship with them, though they needed me there. I am lucky in that respect.

you live your live to the circumstances dealt and enjoy other things. I am also lucky to have been born an introvert and live in the age of mumsnet. i get enough interaction on the school run and with one or to close friends.

it only feels bad, like the op, when someone overtly talks about all the help they get. I then try to remember people who get even less help!

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BlackeyedSusan · 12/10/2013 09:57

the children go everywhere with me when they are not at school. you sort of get used to talking to gp's/shopping/checkouts/church/parents evenings while there is a small boy under one arm screaming shouting and flailing about!

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HexU · 12/10/2013 10:00

YANBU.

Everyone I've met where I live has family support so no-one is interested in baby-sitting circles.

I think this contributes to HCP assuming that everyone has this and if they apply enough pressure of course you'll find it.

I haven't found reliable babysitters to pay.

people who don't have to arrange complicated child care to attend hospital appointments, parents evenings, to manage to do essential maintenance jobs round the house etc never mind go out for a few hours.

^ This

I've not looked to go out - well the exception being when it's to see one DC in something and the other's aren't allowed. Even medical emergencies we are often on our own. To make matters worse DH is frequently away with work so I dread anything going wrong or anything out of ordinary.

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AaDB · 12/10/2013 10:07

I'm another that doesn't have any sort. Both sets of GPs had a sahm and tonnes of help with babysitting for marvellous social lives when we were small. They also help with some GC but not others. I'm deeply hurt and angry but their lack of support. I'm mostly deeply sad that they show no interest in my kind, funny ds, except in an abstract picture on the mantelpiece kind of way.

I've spent at least £40k for childcare so far and I am an exhausted mess. I couldn't care less if they find it hard to look after my dsis children full time, its not me they need to talk to. I have nothing financially physically or emotionally left over for them. Our siblings with all the help can repay them by looking after them in their old age. They have shown me how not to be a gp.

Biscuit for all those that think you have a child, you bring them up without any support from parents (practical and / or emotional). A few hours a year is not it too much to expect.

Biscuit for my ds`s GPs for not taking any interest in their GC.

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SomethingOnce · 12/10/2013 10:14

I really feel for you, AaDB. Not that it helps.

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AaDB · 12/10/2013 10:17

Biscuit for my employer for not understanding we don't have ANY support despite trying. How fantastic that your ILs stay over two nights a week, so they can look after your girls whilst your DW works. How lovely they they took them home with them for three weeks when they had chicken pox. Your girls must have a lovely relationship with their GPs. When ds had


I don't do the school run, child minders are full and we both work full time an hour away from home. If I had time to cultivate a support network, I wouldn't need one.

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AaDB · 12/10/2013 10:26

Thanks Thanks something. Ds was supposed to have packed lunch yesterday, (he usually has school dinners). I totally forgot and sent him to school without lunch. I was out from 7:20am until 6:50pm. I feel Blush that I forgot and Angry at that I only realised this morning when he asked for extra dinner money.


Nothing is more important than my ds but I'm finding juggling it all hard. We are watching Cartoon Network and are planning a lovely afternoon. I've overcompensated by making him bacon on toast instead of cereal for breakfast. It's all good now but a small about of practical support would make a massive difference.

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Mimishimi · 12/10/2013 10:39

YANBU. Dh's parents would definitely help but they live half a world away. Mine live about an hour and a half away. They would help in an emergency but have only ever offered to babysit twice - both times were to take our 8+ daughter for a week during the school holidays. They've never offered to mind our youngest who gets very excited when he sees them and who has a severe speech problem. I don't agree with grandparents unwillingly being coerced into fulltime, or near fulltime care, of their preschool grandchildren but I do find it lovely when extended families live close and help each other out with irregular care.

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Pobblewhohasnotoes · 12/10/2013 10:43

Our childcare is nursery two days a week, that's it. Our parents live 100+ miles away. They do visit regularly and we see them and they are more then happy for us to go out whilst they are here, they adore DS.

However in the times they aren't here we just have to get on with it ourselves. If DS is ill, or we have hospital/GP appointments etc, DS comes too unless one of us has to take time off work. We just juggle it ourselves, it's not easy.

I am a bit envious of people that have child care at the drop of a hat, and am rather incredulous at anyone who has regular childcare from GP and then moans about it.

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Mumsyblouse · 12/10/2013 10:49

OP- I have been lucky enough to have grandparent support (staying over, regular care) when my two were little, however, I think even my very involved parents would balk at three, one a little baby. In fact, they didn't look after babies on their own. So, I totally get that it's a shame not to have some help of any description, but having more than one can be too much for some grandparents, and as mine get older, having all of them for longer periods is just not feasible.

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RavenRose · 12/10/2013 10:56

There's definitely an expectation from others that you do have family support. I had to cancel a medical appoint due to dd2 being sick. No one to take her so had to cancel as I couldn't take a puking child with me. I was grilled for 10 minutes by an incredulous receptionist on my lack of will

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RavenRose · 12/10/2013 10:56

Oops. Bloody ph

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RavenRose · 12/10/2013 10:58

Try again!

My lack of willing family. Also employers can expect you to work late as "can't your mum or mil get the kids"?

Drives me potty

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AaDB · 12/10/2013 11:20

I hear you Raven. One of ds`s teachers once told me it was a good idea to have one of the other mums available in case they needed a close emergency contact. I agreed it was sensible and asked her which one? Teachers seem to have extremely inflexible work places so I'm surprised she couldn't understand the idea that working parents may never do the school run and that some people have NO help. I'm not an over protective mum that won't allow my pfb to be looked after by others.

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ssd · 12/10/2013 11:29

I asked for flexible working once, at work. My 2 bosses sat in front of me and actually laughed, they both said" why don't you just get your mum to help out, my mum babysits all the time"!

they obviously couldn't contemplate anything else

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TeenTwinsToddlerandTantrums · 12/10/2013 11:37

I had to give birth to DC4 alone (a rather nerve racking VBAC of a large baby after a previous neonatal death) as DH had to stay at home with the other DCs because we had no one to look after them. He asked one SIL (unmarried, no DC) but she was 'too busy'.

I was not aware that my mother and stepfather had started travelling to us (5 hour trip), or were going to, when DH told them I was in hospital. They actually arrived at a local hotel long before I gave birth with no word at all. They came round the next after I was out of hospital and stayed for 15 minutes without so much as having a cup of tea or holding DC4 before going off to visit my sister and her DC who they have practically brought up and financially supported for years (also cleared all Dsis's debts).

I can count on one hand how many times they've had my DC and the oldest is 16! My siblings have never babysat despite me constantly babysitting my sister's DCs when I was a teen. One sister used to whine at my mum to 'make me' if I said I had something else on and she did Hmm.

They don't see my DCs at all now.

DH's parents are abroad and will not babysit even for an hour while we visit for once a year as they're 'too old' and SILs won't let them. SILs have never babysat either despite us having their DCs for weeks at a time when they were younger. I won't have them now.

Damn right I am fucking jealous and YDNBU!

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starlight1234 · 12/10/2013 11:50

I do it on my own..no grandparents, single parent, ( Dad doesn't see DS)...I work as a childminder so I am not reliant on childcare, Very rare I ever get to go out so spend most evenings on my own so yes I do feel envious of people that have family support...

It isn't the expectation it would be nice to just be able to even nip for an exercise class rather than DVD at home on my own..

I don't have a desire to leave DS in someones care while I go on holiday..It isn't the cost of paying a babysitter ..it is having someone who can do it regulary and know DS is growing a bond with would be lovely

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