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to hate it when people say "you're a good mum....of boys"

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IamMrsElf · 23/05/2013 09:02

I have 2 DS. I want another baby as does DH. It would be nice if it was a girl but equally lovely to have another boy. I really want a healthy - that's the best. I have always wanted 4 children and just don't feel like I'm ready to hang up my womb just yet.

Anyway, when I mentioned having another one, a lot of family and friends said "you won't have any girls, there's no point in having another one" and then said "you're such a good mum, of boys".

Is there such a thing as being a good mum to just one sex of child? Surely a good mum is a good mum. I'm sure they say this to make me feel better or something but it just pisses me off. It is nice to be told I'm a good mum - especially as most of the time I feel like I'm winging it and the rest of the time have no clue - but it feels like people are saying "you'd be a shit mum to girls" (obviously me being massively over sensitive).

Am I being unreasonable?

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Sokmonsta · 23/05/2013 09:48

When people see me with my b/g twins I get comments about how nice it is to have one of each and so on. Their faces when I reply with 'their brother and sister think so too' are a picture. The way people go on you'd think I planned to have 2 girls and 2 boys. In g/b/g/b order as well. People don't seem to understand that it's usually luck of the draw.

Equally there are some people who cannot successfully carry a baby of a particular gender and for whom such comments about trying for would be hurtful. A neighbour can only carry boys to term. She has sadly had late miscarriages with several girls and says they've yet to work out why so she's stopping at 2 boys.

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IamMrsElf · 23/05/2013 09:48

One of my aunts has 3 DD and she says she wouldn't know what to do with a boy. Another aunt has 2 DD and said the same thing. Both of their DH are really sporty and manly but totally dote on their DDs and are happy with their girls, but people insist that these men really wanted boys Confused

What is this idea that boys are such hard work?? Confused

People really do think one of each is best, but why? I just don't get it. I grew up with one brother, the pigeon pair. It was great but I really wanted a sister and he really wanted a brother. My DM told me that she really wanted 2DD but was delighted to have a boy and wouldn't change it now.

I just think it's rude to comment on the family that a person has. Family is so personal, why do people feel they have the right??

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amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 09:49

oh and when DS4 was born some idiot was expressing how it was a shame we had another boy as a girl would've been lovely!

ffs

now there's no end of "oh you finally had a girl, you must be so happy, you can stop now blah blah blah"

it would be plain boring if it wasn't so annoying.

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ClairesTravellingCircus · 23/05/2013 09:50

I don't think it is so wrong to wish your child is healthy, it doesn't mean you wouldn't love/accept them, just that you hope they will not have any illnesses/conditions that will make their life more difficult/cause them pain. What is wrong with that?

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FryOneFatManic · 23/05/2013 09:52

We have one of each. It's simply the luck of the draw (or whatever). I don't want any more at nearly 45 especially as certain medical things would rear up in pregnancy, although if I had had the first at a younger age (I was nearly 32) we may have had more.

But I would not have been bothered if they had been both boys or both girls. To me, each child is individual and I mother them according to their needs.

OP, if you're a good mum, then you'll be just as good with a DD, you'll simply adapt to their needs. It was such a stupid comment that you received. After all, when you are pregnant with your 2nd DC, then whatever sex the first one was you have no experience of the other sex do you, so each mother has to adapt to a different sex if their 2nd DC is of the other sex.

Okay, that probably wasn't worded as well as it could be, but hopefully you get the idea.

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amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 09:57

Iam a friend of ours have 5 girls. they are gorgeous children and I love them, but some they act bat shit crazy - our boys are not necessarily more trouble!

with boys you probably worry about physical violence or taking risks or getting someone pg

with girls you probably worry about emotional abuse, self esteem issues and getting pg

same hard work, just different issues maybe.

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amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 09:58

Iam meant to add that therefore I agree with you! Wink

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amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 10:03

Grin sokmonsta when people see me with DS5 and DD and comment on how we have the "ideal" family I LOVE telling them that we think so, it is wonderful to have FIVE boys and a girl!Grin Grin Grin

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thebody · 23/05/2013 10:05

Can't see its wrong to want anyone to be healthy!

You would hardly wish bad health on anyone would you?

I have 2 girls and 2 boys and can honestly say that between them all they are a mix of personality traits, my girls are no more 'whingy or emotional' than the lads and my lads are no more 'kick ass and mentally strong'than my girls.

Utter bollox this stereotyping.

Ignore op.

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Squitten · 23/05/2013 10:05

We're expecting DC3 after two boys. I think everyone is expecting a girl for some reason. I reckon it's another boy.

I like that comment "I wouldn't know what to do with a boy."

I didn't know what to do with them either until I had them! Grin

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IamMrsElf · 23/05/2013 10:07

sokmonsta did you not order them from the stork?? Smile I am sorry to hear about your neighbour. Comments around gender must be deeply hurtful for her.

Thank you amazing. Can't believe how rude people are. 6 DC must be really lovely and rewarding though. Shame they can't appreciate the joy of a large family.

I do feel at the moment that there is a dim view around having more than 2 children. That program on Channel 4 about having lots of kids seemed to make large families seem like a freak show. Now, 18 kids is too many for me personally, but it's the choice of the parents.

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CoffeeChocolateWine · 23/05/2013 10:09

I always thought that we were destined to be parents of boys as DH's family has a very strong male dominance (not a single girl born into the family for 3 generations). DC1 was a boy but at our 20 week scan we found out that DC2 was a girl. I must admit it came as a shock as I was so convinced we were having another boy. And I did have a couple of irrational moments of "I don't know what to do with a girl", "I'm not sure I'll be a good mum to a girl", "I feel more of a boys' mum than a girls' mum" etc. Completely stupid, I know!

Well, DD is now 10 months and being a mum to a beautiful girl comes just as naturally as being a mum to a beautiful boy and I look back on those moments and think why on earth did I ever think this would be any different?? Ridiculous.

And I certainly wouldn't ever say something like that to someone else! I do have a friend though who has 3 lovely boys and she is a brilliant mum...and I guess I'm so used to seeing her with boys that I can't really 'picture her' with a girl, if that makes sense. I have no doubt that she would be an amazing mum to girls too though...as someone said earlier, you parent the child you have!

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IamMrsElf · 23/05/2013 10:16

When I was pg with DS2 everyone told me I was having a girl. How they could tell, I don't know. I had a feeling it was a boy. For a split second when the doc held him up I felt a pang of disappointment Blush and then he weed all over me and I laughed. When they brought him over and I looked into his little face, I fell in love with him. I was so angry with all those people that kept on about him being a girl because it nearly ruined it for me.

I was working at the time I was pg as a teacher, so I had students, teachers, family and friends, all telling me I was having a girl. My DM was the worst, she kept on about how she thought I was having a girl, then when he was born said "I always knew you'd have a boy. You'll have 4 boys and SIL will have 3 girls" Angry

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CoffeeChocolateWine · 23/05/2013 10:18

amazingmum Grin, that's such a brilliant response!

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Wishfulmakeupping · 23/05/2013 10:18

Think it's such an odd comment to make, if you're a good mum you are a good mum.

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MrsKoala · 23/05/2013 10:20

I find this so common. In fact it's more common ime for people to say things like his than not.

We have DS and are planning on trying for 2 more children. But everyone says 'fingers crossed the next one is a girl, then you wont have to have another' Confused

In my family it's completely normal to favour one gender. My nan made no attempt to hide the fact she didn't like girls and favoured my male cousins. My Aunt would say to me, and my parents (who had 2 girls), how dreadful girls were, so bitchy etc, and how glad she was she didn't have to share her house with any. My exMil (who had 3 boys) went on about how glad she was none were girls as she couldn't have stood the 'competition' Shock for what i don't know? And my current Mil has DH and 2 DD's - she has not seen her girls since they were small and only loves DH, she tells me constantly how lucky i am we have a boy and not an 'awful girl'. The thing is we could have a girl next so can't imagine what she will be like - but i wont subject my children to favouritism. But also I am a girl and so are they, so i fail to see how they can think they are not being hateful towards me and themselves.

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amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 10:23

wheredo the "as long as it's healthy" answer is typically a response to "do you hope for/want a girl. I don't care either way, I just hope it's healthy, why is that wrong?

of course I want my baby to be healthy and I hope and pray that they will be!
who in their right mind would hope or want a baby with health problems? !Hmm

people don't tend to mean that unless healthy the child is not good enough.

seriously, don't get offended by it.

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OwlLady · 23/05/2013 10:25

yep I got No point having another one, it would be another boy' too after having my second boy. What upsets me more is that I think people thing it doesn't count that I actually have a daughter as well because she is severely disabled. She is still my daughter!

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MimsyBorogroves · 23/05/2013 10:26

I had this after DS2 was born. I put on facebook (yeah, I know) that I'd had him, and one of the first comments was "ooh, so are you going to try again for a girl?" Er, I've just given birth to a lovely boy and had a blood transfusion, I'm hormonal and leaking milk anywhere. Impregnation is the last thing on my mind!

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OwlLady · 23/05/2013 10:31

My boys are completely different as well Confused they are not little clones of one another just because they are brothers

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ShowOfHands · 23/05/2013 10:32

The thing is a lot of people aren't being crass or insensitive, they're just part of a society which has ingrained this weird gender divide from birth. There are a lot of stereotypes and op, you make the mistake of falling into it yourself. You said upthread that boys have a lot of energy but are loving and cuddly. Some boys maybe. I know plenty who aren't.

Mostly, people are just saying something for the sake of saying something. Occasionally, people are just twats.

I can hand on heart say that I'm glad my brother has only girls because he is a better father to girls than he would be to boys. This isn't a judgement on the sex of his children but an acknowledgment of my brother's own preconceptions.

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IamMrsElf · 23/05/2013 10:42

show I did mean my boys specifically. But I didn't say that, so I can see why you'd think I was generalising. They are only 3 and 1 - so that's probably as much a reflection of their age, as their personality.

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DeWe · 23/05/2013 10:43

Several people have told me that research has shown that if you have two children of the same gender it is almost certain that you can't have the other gender Hmm

That is totally ridiculous information. Because statisically with two children, assuming equal probability of having Boy or girl, you could have: BB BG GB GG, hence an equal chance of having one of each or both the same.

There are some genetic conditions which are X related recessive and so a boy baby (XX) may well spontaniously miscarry due to this disorder, hence you can get couples that (if I'm correct) 50% of baby boys will not get to term or die shortly after, but I don't think there's any equivalent for girls.

But I wonder if that was where your friend was coming from.
Hope you have your 4 children.

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IamMrsElf · 23/05/2013 10:47

OwlLady my little boys have very different personalities, already, I can see that. It won't follow that they'll have the same interests just because they're both boys. Can't believe people's reactions to your daughter - there are no words - twats.

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CoffeeChocolateWine · 23/05/2013 10:48

When I first started dating my now husband, whenever we used to go and stay with his parents, his mum used to just feed us from the start of the weekend to the end. Big lunches, three course dinners, afternoon cake etc. Me, being polite and trying to make a good impression, would just eat it and by the end of the weekend would feel really ill and uncomfortably overfed!

But after a couple of visits DH's dad started to make comments about how much I ate, whether I'd put on weight, how much did I weigh, how my mum must have had a tough time filling me up when I was growing up etc etc (I'm not overweight...pretty average for my height)...it was just non-stop and at every visit I'd get comments! I was a bit Hmm but took it on the chin to begin with but it began to really piss me off eventually and I still say to my DH, "thank goodness they never had daughters (3 sons)" I dread to think of the body, self-esteem issues they would have had if they'd had girls.

I remember when I was pregnant with DC1 we all had a meal out together and FIL made a comment about "well, as Coffee usually eats for 2 she'll probably be eating for about 6 now...ha ha ha!" Confused Shock

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