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To think HMRC would inform us about changes to tax credits

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noisytoys · 11/04/2013 09:11

I saw this morning from various sources (FB, a thread in money) that tax credits have been reduced for a lot of people with no notice. I checked my tax credits which went in today and lo and behold, £94 every 4 weeks reduction. There is no more I can cut. I can't afford to live now. I thought I would put this here for traffic because I fear millions of people will affected Sad

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wannabedomesticgoddess · 12/04/2013 05:31

Oh I know. A key thing I left out is

The government should be responsible and honest. Instead of a bunch of self centred, greedy bastards.

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PariahHairy · 12/04/2013 05:33

Our tax credits appear to be the same. I used to stress about debts etc, now I just ignore.

They have even stopped hassling us, lets face it if countries can be in so much debt, my personal tally is nothing.

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Cornflaketart · 12/04/2013 06:21

After reading this thread, I just checked my bank, tax credit has gone down by £100 a week Shock

I don't know why. No letter about it.

I currently get DLA for neuro disorder.
My three teenagers still have Autism, Wink and still get DLA.
Nothing at all has changed. Except we will be getting 5k less per year.

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lougle · 12/04/2013 07:58

I checked my account with trepidation, but mine has gone up slightly and matches my award letter from last year's renewal.

Does anyone feel comfortable to post their circumstances, so we can see if there is a pattern? I'll start:

couple with 3 children, one 'severely disabled' by HMRC definition.
DH earns approx £10k, I get carers allowance of £3k. combined tax credits around £270 per week.

Quick note -usual MN rules notwithstanding, thus is not an invitation for posters who disagree with tax credits to come along and have a pop.

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AnitaManeater · 12/04/2013 07:59

You need to check the last award notice you received from tax credits. On the final page of all awards it states the amount that you will receive from the start of the financial year (6th April). The payments from 6th April until you submit your tax credits renewal form are all provisional.

It's only going to get worse when Universal Credit comes in.

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nkf · 12/04/2013 08:07

They should tell you in advance. It's not fair otherwise.

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BlackAffronted · 12/04/2013 08:10

Mine have gone up £2 a week.

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lougle · 12/04/2013 08:18

It doesn't make sense. The HMRC site confirms the information in the link I posted upthread. There is no cut in tax credits this year, apart from a lowered disregard to £5000 from £10000, and a modest increase in some other elements. The only thing that would change the award is a change in income/circumstance.

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YesIamYourSisterInLaw · 12/04/2013 08:33

My situations similar to foxys and I have lost around £32 a week with no warning.

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Svrider · 12/04/2013 08:42

YANBU
We not only have had our tax credits stopped, we've even got to pay some back for some reason Hmm
Our income has been the same for 4.5 years
We have informed HMRC every time we have had any changes, but no we still owe them money Angry
Sorry you are in this position

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wannabedomesticgoddess · 12/04/2013 08:46

Do you think they are reverting to UC rates now so that when UC does come in that "discretionary" payment that was promised to ensure no one was worse off is actually worth nothing?

Or should I get my tinfoil out?

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lougle · 12/04/2013 09:59

Can't be that, wannabe, because the rates are set in legislation. They can't change it without telling you. Even the council has had to change my council tax to 9 installments because they missed the deadline two week notice period for a variation.

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wannabedomesticgoddess · 12/04/2013 10:58

Do you know when the UC rates are being published?

Isnt one area already trialing it? Surely rates have been set?

But yes, I see what you mean. Still dont get why some people are losing so much though.

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Groovee · 12/04/2013 11:16

If I recall correctly, when you renew, you normally get a lump sum of a higher payment, then a weekly/monthly payment until March, then in April it goes down until you renew again.

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minicreamegg · 12/04/2013 11:37

Does anyone know when Universal Credit starts for everyone, will we need to sign-on every 2 weeks to receive tax credits ? Universal Credit is really confusing me Hmm

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Szeli · 12/04/2013 11:51

lougle as the sole earner I get a second adult award for my partner so I assumed foxy's would be the same. I think it's because when I'm at work he's not entitled to jsa so we get an extra lump from that.

That's what it's listed as on my awards letter anyways xx

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mrsscoob · 12/04/2013 11:59

Do you have an overpayment you are paying back? I called last week to report a minor change in circumstances and then I noticed my tax credits payments had gone down. When I rang I was told it was not to do with my change in circumstances it was because they had decided that I must start paying back more of an overpayment I had from a previous award. I had no letter or any idea that this was going to happen. The girl I spoke to on the phone said that with universal credit coming in next year they are trying to get as much of the money owed through over payments back in as possible before it starts. Hence why my repayment was changed.

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lougle · 12/04/2013 14:42
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Moodykat · 12/04/2013 22:14

My tax credits have gone down £67 a week apparently because I started work last year so my 2012/2013 income was more than 2011/2012. They knew that would be the case. I have always kept them fully informed. Now it seems I must stop work for a year to get more again. After childcare I would be better off staying at home. What is the point?! Like others, I had no warning of this happening. This post probably barely makes sense but I am so cross!

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M0naLisa · 12/04/2013 22:18

My child tax stays the same but we have just updated employment details and WTC is a lot lower to what it used to be. We used to get near enough to £80per week in WTC and now we get just over £50 per week.

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lougle · 12/04/2013 22:22

£80 per week WTC is high, M0naLisa. DH gets £30 per week and we have 3 children, one disabled and an income of £13k.

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LooseyMy · 12/04/2013 22:25

The next year's payments are on the bottom of your award letter. Read your paperwork properly.

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dribbleface · 12/04/2013 22:28

The whole system is so confusing, I thought mine would stop this year, called to confirm, they paid a one off and they are continuing. May be the disregard thing.

I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent but cannot make head nor tail of it.

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Moodykat · 12/04/2013 22:29

Thanks Loosey.
I know it is on there. However I have misplaced it and am sure that actually it didn't show this much of a reduction as I would've panicked about it at the time.
But again, thanks.

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Darkesteyes · 12/04/2013 22:40

wannaBe i saw in my twitter feed this afternoon that MP Jo Swinson is calling for interns to be paid the minimum wage so she ended up getting tweets asking why cant it be the same for workfare.

Bloody too right.

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