to think putting on your make-up in public isn't rude or anti-social?

[MomentLostToTheSky]

A thread I just read reminded me of an incident a couple of weeks ago.

I was on a really long flight and was waiting for my connection flight. The first flight had been overnight and I hadn't slept.

Was sat in departures, extremely bored and looking like a hot mess and decided to retouch my make-up. It wasn't busy and still a few people were staring at me.

A few people on the thread said that doing your make-up in public is rude and anti-social. I really just don't get how it's rude, it's just make-up which doesn't have a smell to it and as for anti-social - I wasn't planning on making conversation with the strangers sat opposite me.

I agree that in a certain situation such as in the middle of a job interview then yes it's rude.

But overall I really don't see the problem.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

He sounds very like one of that mob who were having a go at Mary Beard a few weeks back, moondog. Lovely.

[BalloonSlayer]

I often think that putting a face full of make up on on a train is saying to the fellow passengers "I don't mind you lot seeing me without makeup, or putting it on, because YOU don't matter. I am putting on a mask for the people who DO matter to me."

And of course your fellow-passengers don't matter to you at all. But it seems a bit rude none the less.

My sister always used to do her face on the train. And she wore a lot of makeup: complicated eye-shadow combinations, mascara, blusher, lipstick. I always thought - well if you need to wear that much slap to face the world then how come you can bear to walk to the station and face other commuters without it? And the answer is presumably, she didn't care what they thought as they were not important to her. TBH I doubt she gave it much thought at all, she doesn't worry too much about fine details.

[ivykaty44]

No undressing and nudity to me is fine and dandy, happy to strip off

But in society there are things that are intimate and undressing at doctors must be one as afters the doctor may look at you naked... But not the undressing part


In society woman can be seen with make up on but not the application


So the end result is viewable but not the action to get there

[LadyFlumpalot]

I was doing it last week, put my contacts in, applied makeup (whole lot) and gave my hair a quick brush. Looked up and there were two school lads, maybe about 16, just staring open mouthed at me!

Have to say, I have much less issue with someone doing their makeup on the train than I do with someone listening to music that I can just hear, or someone watching a film or playing a noisy game without ear-phones in. Or just school-kids in general.

[moondog]

Nowt wrong with making the best of what you have.
I think the attention given to the random oddballs that gave Mary Beard a hard time has imbued them with a cutural importance they don't have.

[quesadilla]

It's not rude or antisocial exactly but I do find it oddly irritating when people do full make up on public transport. It's just ever so slightly me me me and always makes me wonder why they didn't just get up earlier. A little bit of mascara or powder is fine. But there are people who bring their entire make up cabinet on the tube and manage to do it in a way that says "my eyelashes are so exquisite they deserve every one of the five costs they are getting and all you pushing 50 witches can eat my camiknickers." It's just a teensy bit tacky.

[moondog]

Yes, Balloon, that's it exactly.

[ivykaty44]

Noviceoftheday

What if the business you are picking up at nine is the same person that sat opposite you at eight forty five?

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

ivy - honestly, I do follow that, but I was asking why that's the case? I don't see why it's intimate - are you saying, basically, that to you it just is, one of those things you couldn't ever think differently about because it's ingrained? Or do you mean, it's intimate and there are reasons why, but you're not saying them because you think everyone knows them?

Don't answer if you don't want, I am just being curious.

moon - maybe so!

[Astelia]

Am I the only one wondering about the wisdom of putting contacts in your eye on public transport? How do you get your hands clean enough to touch the lenses?

[ivykaty44]

Because that is how society in uk is

If you go to china then there are no doors on the loo in the female side

But there are in the female side in the uk

But in France there are often mixed sex loos

Can you imagine how woman in the uk would react if we adopted either the French or Chinese way of peeing

:)

[Catchingmockingbirds]

it's certainly not rude, but I may absentmindedly watch someone put on their make up if I'm not busy incase I can pick up any tips.

[moondog]

Other people's make up always looks slightly grubby.
I saw a picture of Bobbi Brown's makeup bag and contents once when I bought some stuff from a BB counter.
Even her stuff did.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Thanks ivy - and fair enough!

I started a thread trying to think about it because I realized I've already derailed this one a bit. Thanks for being patient with me.

[LaurieFairyCake]

I don't eat in public (apart from ice cream) or apply make up (lipstick and pressed powder excepted).

Nor do I wear onesies or pj's in public. I don't put my feet on the seats in cinemas, nor pick my nose in the car (do people think they're fucking invisible when they do this ?!?)

I don't swear and I pick up my dog shit in public too. I don't park in disabled or Parent/child spaces and I smile and say hello when I pass strangers in the street.

I'm sure I'm a cunt in private but my public face is reasonable

[IslaValargeone]

I couldn't possibly eat ice cream in public, too much tongue stuff involved.

[bigTillyMint]

It doesn't really bother me. I find it quite interesting to watch. One of my colleague puts her make-up on in the room every day.

I wouldn't do it (other than a slash of lippy on a very rare occasion) but that's mainly because I wouldn't want to scare the commuters/whatever with my face without any war-paint!

[moondog]

Noone should eat ice cream anyway unless under 12 or over 70.


And while I'm on a roll, let's ban adults from eating crisps and then overpowering you with synthetic cheesy breath.
Horrendous!

[HollyBerryBush]

Don't start me on public eating, munching whilst walking down the high street.

[Pagwatch]

God, came home on a late train on Wednesday and the smell of the post drinking burger kings pervaded the whole train ...alcohol and fatty, sweaty burgers. I had forgotten the joy of the late night train.

[Pagwatch]

HAha at 'too much tongue stuff'

[MomentLostToTheSky]

"For me to wear make-up it isn't about being vain, I'm just a very self-conscious person"

Self-conscious people would not put makeup on in public surely?

I think that's what I find strange about it, that someone who feels makeup is important to how they look is happily to apply it in front of loads of strangers.

I never go out make-up free but it doesn't bother to touch up the make-up I already have on etc.

[SmiteYouWithThunderbolts]

In a restaurant/cafe I would think it a little inappropriate. Sitting in a waiting area at an airport... nah, I wouldn't think anything of it! There's a difference between retouching your lippy/face powder and getting on a whole face of slap from start to finish.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Ewwww at 'sweaty' burgers. But yes. Possibly the most offensive smell is those breaded fish things.

[BrandyAlexander]

Ivy. It would be a good ice breaker. I would not bothered that they saw me make up free.