Would anyone actually put this on their child?

[HerrenaHarridan]

all daddy wanted was a blow job

I'm fairly unshockable, but on this words fail me

Can anyone persuade me there's a funny side?

I'm still intrigued as to know what is so horrendous about dressing your DC up. Are costumes really considered awful too?

It made me laugh but would I put a baby of mine in one? Not in a million lifetimes. Would I judge someone I knew who dressed their baby in one? Probably not.

For me it's not the 'unwanted baby' insinuation (I don't read it that way) it's the fact that it is a display of a sexual act on a child which is just inherently wrong. Like a child's babygrow that says "All mummy wanted was cunnilingus".

what about when the child is old enough to look back at baby photos and read and asks - whats a blow job daddy?

what about when they are old enough to understand what it is and grasp the "unwanted" connotations?

yuk

'Whats wrong with Santa outfits? Or band t-shirts? What about football kits?'

Well, if you like that sort of thing then nothing much.

Speaking of the santa outfits etc,

I think what bothers me is the way it objectifies the baby. The baby becomes an object of ridicule - a joke - something to laugh at or about.

I mean yes babies do funny stuff and I laugh at mine when he looks silly, of course I do but it is in a sympathetic way - because he can't help it. It's not a 'I know, let's MAKE him do something stupid, or dress him up as a Christmas pudding and then laugh at him.'

That's just contrived and unfair. I think it hides a fair bit of anger towards babies when people do this. (which is totally normal). It's a way of saying 'no, you're NOT in charge of me despite the way you make me love you, keep me awake all night and scream at me for no apparent reason.'

It's putting them in their place. Because there's only so much we can take. But at the same time it IS like taking the mickey out of them, and that's something I find pretty intolerable most of the time.

You know - they are people, they deserve some respect. But it's all on a continuum. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world. just another way of establishing dynamics and boundaries. We all do it somehow.

I have never read anything so strange in my whole life. I have absolutely no anger what so ever towards my baby and it is stupid to think that.

I put her in a cute little reindeer outfit because it was cute, not because I hate her.

outside gosh, that is a very, very odd way to see things. I dressed dd up in a girl's santa outfit when she was one, sat her next to the tree & used to resulting photograph as our Christmas card for close family. I wasn't angry, she didn't keep me awake, I love loving her, she just looked soooo frickin' cute!!!

DS (11 mo) has a gruffalo outfit as a snow suit. Beloved it and hates it being take off when we get home. But the. His sister has a gruffalo obsession so he's familiar with it.

I don't love the whole baby as a pumpkin thing, but don't think it's cruel.

I'm not a great fan of football kits & band t-shirts as I think it's treating your child as an accessory. Especially if they're a baby & clearly have no opinion on the band/team. My parents sent DS an Ireland rugby shirt. He looked very cute, but I was still a bit uncomfortable. I photographed him, emailed them& put it back in the drawer. Although he definitely WILL support Ireland when he's older!

I suppose it very much depends how you view taking the mickey out of people.

DH and I take the piss out of each other frequently. I see it as part of a happy, loving, friendship-filled relationship.

I'm guessing you see it as far more of a negative thing, OutsideOverThere?

Sorry, no offence intended...I think anger was too strong a word. I think it was a bit early in the morning

What I mean is yes, taking the mickey is kind of a separational tool - at any age - and yes it does make me really uncomfortable but I know lots of parents and other people who think it's fine, and do it to their children, and they're great parents and I really like them. Yet, they've got a different take on this sort of thing to me.

They're the kind of people who will play tricks on their kids - like taking a 2yo's dummy away and hiding it then pretending they don't know where it is, and laughing a bit. that sort of thing. It's not my way of doing things but I doubt it does any serious harm.

OutsideOverThere, I think that is totally ludicrous. Even if anger is to stronger word and you in fact meant a very mild resentment or something of a similarly low level vein, I can see no sense in what you've said.

Its cute and another 'thing' to do on a special event. You seem very focused on the idea that its funny and therefore as a parent I'm actively making my child the butt of a joke. These things aren't exactly funny, more cute/sweet. However even if it was about laughing at the baby I can't see that as an issue, learning to have the piss taken is important. My DC look back and laugh at themselves or each other in silly pictures or ooh and aww over how cute they were.

Earlier you posted that its undignified but personally I just don't associate being dignified with a baby, thats exactly what they are not. There is no pretence and I don't think its right to project adult sensitivities onto a baby.

We do play tricks on the DC and they play tricks or practical jokes on us or each other, we all laugh about it and take it on the chin. I can't see why this is a bad thing. I think you are being oversensitive.

Maybe.

I do think it's the sweetest thing in the world when child chooses to wear a costume, or dress up, butthey tend to be a bit older, maybe 2,3,4.

I just would feel uncomfortable putting a cute, funny, deliberately amusing costume or t shirt on my child before they too could understand the joke iyswim. that's just me.

No I'm lying - I had a MN t shirt for ds2 when he was little. something about being on here all day and all he got was this lousy t shirt.

It lasted about one wear I think, it was a bit embarrassing tbh.