to be horrified by this

[trubbliphone]

This is complicated so bear with me. I have a friend in another country. She has a daughter by a man who she has nothing to do with. I pushed a little, because I wanted to know why she would deny her daughter any relationship with her father. I knew she had got pregnant by him once before and had miscarried, as this happened just before a trip we took together. She told me the full story.

So, she found out she was pregnant, and the pregnancy was confirmed by her gynaecologist (in the US). He took her blood, etc, and told her she was about 10 weeks pregnant. Their relationship was very on off, when he found out she was pregnant, he came to see her and they went to bed. During sex, he claimed he needed to go to the bathroom. He returned, continued and finished. Hours later she started cramping painfully. She saw her doctor the next day and he said, I can't explain this, but your progesterone levels are zero. ZERO.

She thought no more about it. Got over miscarriage. Months later she complained to her bf that her period wouldn't arrive, felt bloated etc. She knew she wasn't pg but it seems he thought she was. Later, they were having sex and he did this same strange thing again (he had not done it since the last time) - he went to the bathroom. She looked in the crack in the door after him and he was getting something out of his sponge bag. As before, he came back in, and came inside her.

His sister is a nurse. Is there any way, in this country, that people could get hold of mifepristone and is it technically possible to induce a medical abortion in this way? COuld he have done this?

I have had a medical abortion (RU486) and the cramping she described rang very true. When I had it they put the pill on the end of a tampon which I had to insert.

Could he possibly have done this?

My blood ran cold when she told me.

[ShipwreckedAndComatose]

People!! The pill needs to get into the blood stream so that the progesterone and oestrogen can act upon the ovaries and uterus!!

As I said earlier... Bollocks!!

[usualsuspect]

What Line said

[TwoPoundCharityShopShoes]

[JollyGolightly]

It takes a while for progesterone levels to drop to zero, more than one day after the start of a mc.

I declare this story to be bollocks.

[AnyoneforTurps]

This is total bollocks balderdash. If anything, Mifepristone will increase progesterone levels in the 1st few hours because it stops progesterone getting taken up by receptors (so there is more sloshing around in the blood). Progesterone levels will eventually fall after a miscarriage but never to zero, just to pre-pregnancy levels.

[trubbliphone]

Shipwrecked do you know about this medically? I just know, sadly from my own experience, that it is administered approximately in this way.

His sister is a nurse, but not in any senior position. Just an ordinary nurse. Surely these drugs would be rigorously controlled?

[SolidGoldBrass]

This sounds a right load of old cock. Mind you, it's not impossible that the bloke could have had the intention to do something like that, just not very plausible that it would have worked.

[ginmakesitallok]

Woo Hoo, first time I've ever had a post deleted!! I have arrived!

[trubbliphone]

Anyone thanks. I need info.

[OHforDUCKScake]

Im with Jolly. My first thought was, no way does it drop to zero just like that.

I do agree to the decleration of Bullshit.

[MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel]

So she is denying her daughter her father because she believes that he made her miscarry.

Tbh is he was so determined to induce a miscarriage there are drugs he could have spiked her drink with that would require a hell of a lot less effort to get hold of and wouldn't have the uncertainty and sneaking around that you believe.

I also think that it sounds like she miscarried before but just showed no symptoms, ime progesterone levels take a while to drop back down to normal (not zero) not a matter of a few hours.

[redplasticspoon]

I have reported this post.

Having a degree in a relevant field, I can confirm this is BS.

[StuffezLaBouche]

This thread has upset me a bit but i know im being a bit over sensitive.
Fwiw ive had a medical abortion and there were FIVE pessaries i had to insert. Not sure where on his penis he might be hiding all those.
:-(

[OHforDUCKScake]

If what any says is right, and your friend told you her doctor said it was zero, the your friend is making up huge massive great porky pies to you.

[StuffezLaBouche]

Im glad, redplasticspoon

[ShipwreckedAndComatose]

I have too.

Generally reportable threads make me laugh but I actually find this one offensive

[usualsuspect]

Clearly bollocks.

[AmandinePoulain]

Someone is lying here.

I had medical treatment following a mmc - I had to take oral medication, then wait 48 hours, then insert 2 pessaries, then I needed a further 2 doses. It really isn't that 'easy'

[trubbliphone]

Red plastic spoon, sorry should I have put a warning on this thread? I need to know if it's bullshit. I have had a medical abortion, and for me, in my case, there was only one vaginal pessary.

I don't really care if people think this is bullshit. I only want to know if this is remotely possible. Really, I am massively relieved if it is.

I'm not saying, THIS IS TRUE. It is a reported story, and although I would like to think my friend is sane and would not lie, she is clearly going through a difficult time.

[WorraLiberty]

This reads like a weird urban myth

No doubt it'll be spreading through Facebook like wildfire in a couple of weeks.

[OliviaMumsnet]

A REMINDER THAT WE DON"T ALLOW TROLL HUNTING
The OP is a namechanger not a new poster
Thanks
MNHQ

[Moominsarescary]

I only had one vg pessery but also an oral one. Unless his Sis is a nurse prescriber I doubt he would have gotten anything off her. Even if she is it's a big risk to take giving your bro a controlled drug. Also levels don't drop that fast.