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AIBU?

To give my DSILs a mouthful?

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 15:52

My DSIL, her wife and their twin DDs (9months) have come to stay. They have been living in San Fran while my DSIL's wife (also SIL, obvs. but it gets confusing... will use DSILW for speed) has been studying and SIL has been on Mat leave.

SIL can't get a visa to work in the US so they are back, and staying with us until they decide what they're doing... It depends, apparently, on which job DSILW will get/take, one here or one in Europe.

It's only been 3 days but I've had it already...

I KNOW they have twins, but there are two of them as well, neither working at the moment, and my house looks like a bomb site.

They are still on West Coast Time, which means that they are bathing their twins at 1am, up most of the night and the squawking babies are keeping everyone up, including my DDs.They are making no effort to adjust their children's body clocks. We gently suggested that maybe, at 10pm last night they ought to consider waking their DDs from their 'nap' to try and ease them towards UK time. "We don;t believe in waking them when they're sleeping because they'll be really grumpy...". NOt half as f-ing grumpy as we will be if you keep us up all night again...

They are, having had twins the bloody EXPERTS in bloody EVERYTHING parenting related, and are constantly being disapproving of things in a rather snooty way "Well, WE don't think..." "When you have TWINS...." "WE don't believe in television, could we turn it off?" (Um, no, it's Saturday and my DDs are knackered because your DDs kept them up all night so they are being allowed to watch a film and eat sandwiches on the sofa.) "We believe in all eating TOGETHER at the table". Etc. They haven't done the 'terrible twos' yet, I wat to tell them to F-off and come back to me in five years. Every bloody sentence starts with "When you have twins...". They're still bloody babies, love. Not a different species. And having 2x 9 month olds doesn't give you a position from whch to advise me on raising my 5 year old and my 2.5 year old.

We were making creamy porridge for breakfast, and offered some to their DDs. They asked if it was made with cows milk. We said "naturally"... They looked like we were going to poison their DDs and said "We're not introducing cows milk until they are 12 months old. Can you make some with formula?". They are feeding them yoghurt and cheese. I suggested in that being the case that some cows milk in some porridge wouldn't kill them, and that, AFAIU, it's just that cows milk ought not to be given as a main drink before then. Cue much sighing and "We just don't think it's good for them." Twits.

They are CONSTANTLY scathing about the UK. The weather. The "lack of things to do with children". (We live in nappy valley. Seriously. They just haven't looked). The fact that you don't get monthly checkups with a paediatrician as standard. (Their kids are perfectly healthy, but they seem to like getting monthly bloods done for fun..). The fact it's SO HARD to drive anywhere, and, really how can we get anywhere WITH TWINS without a car? (Um, use your f-ing Bugaboo Donkey, perhaps?). I feel like telling them to f-off back to the US if it's so star spangled awesome.

They're going to my in-laws for Christmas, but will be back with us in Jan until they sort themselves out.

Gees. I'm going to combust.

db
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DonkeysInTheStableAtMidnight · 09/12/2012 16:53

Have you tried the head tilt look of concern masking annoyance, along with "Is that what they tell you over there?" or, cheery laugh, "Oh bless. I don't know I got on without all that carry on".

They'll be packing their bags and fleeing within 72 hours.

Is this just pfb craziness or do you normally get on all right?

I was wondering what bradyismyfavouritewiseman just asked, what's your DH's take on this? I hope he's helping clear the mess!

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CarlingBlackMabel · 09/12/2012 16:55

OMG, they are insufferable!

Can your DH have a word with his sister? (I assume that is the SIL connection?)

Don't give them a mouthful, find a way to stand your ground in a firm but reasonable way.

Requests to turn off the TV? "Ah, well it's part of our children's life occasionally and i'm fine with that so I'll let them finish watching this film". Staying up all night? "I know it's hard and it must be extra hard with twins, but as my children need their rest can we keep the noise down in the night, please?"

Ignore health pfb lunacy, we've all done it over something, just let them make their own porrige etc. Ignore, ignore, ignore, while smiling inwardly to yourself.

One of the things I like, in general, about Americans is that they speak directly and can be spoken to directly without people taking the hump as they might here, so be calm and direct over yor own needs.

But rarely was a Wine more deserved.

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ThinkAboutItOnBoxingDay · 09/12/2012 17:03

I'm in nappy valley as well and have a 6 month old. If they can't find anything to do they are seriously lacking imagination!

Anything I can do to help persuade them France would be a wonderful place to settle, let me know.

Hope venting on here helps. RL wine is also a good idea....

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:04

Um, I get on ok with DSIL generally. DSILW is a bit trickier. Generally a bit opinionated and superior, (and a bit of a sh*t shirrer to boot).

So, half and half. I think they have PFB lunacy x2 for twins and x2 again for doing birth and the first 9 months in California.

Not Americans... DSIL is from South Africa (as per DH). DSILW is German... Not that I'm stereotyping. Much...

I am going to try and be a bit more assertive, and try and find a way to respond to the patronising/disapproving stuff, I think.

I'm usually quite passive agressive by temperament, but I need to not let them be how they have been, IYSWIM.

db
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ChristmasTreegles · 09/12/2012 17:04

I would say that it might be easier for them to stay in a hotel or B&B rather than struggling to adjust to living in your house. Suggest it. Grin Offer to allow them to use your internet to find something quickly.

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 09/12/2012 17:07

They sound annoying. When are they leaving? I think you need to set an end date v soon and bite your tongue except about the evening napping (which is beyond unreasonable and directly affects your family).

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ThinkAboutItOnBoxingDay · 09/12/2012 17:08

Clearly what you need to do is offer to take dtwins to baby rhyme time and leave them with your overtired 2.5 year old!

Of course then they will just talk amongst themselves about how badly brought up DD is. But they'll only be smug for about another 18 months.....

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SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 09/12/2012 17:11

YANBU. Can you get them deported? I'm sure someone on MN has good contacts at the Home Office...

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:17

Overtired DD2 and the DSILs would be an interesting one. Grin

But, if I'm honest, the twins are super high-maintenance. One refuses to be put down, ever. they both whinge CONSTANTLY. And they seem to be having milk feeds every five minutes... Bottles EVERYWHERE all over the house.

(TBH DD2 probably drank just as much, but because it was BF I barely noticed. As it is, bottle making seems to be an endless task...)

No, um, no thanks!

Can't get them deported. Despite their obvious disdain for the UK DSIL has a citizenship and DSILW is obs. EU.

Good thought though and v. tempting...

What will be fun will be to hear reports of their three weeks with my 'deeply intolerant of mess and disruption' inlaws.

Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

db
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glentherednosedbattleostrich · 09/12/2012 17:17

Tell them you've bought a lovely lunch for the twins - a lovely greggs sausage roll, some pom bears and a fruit shoot, with a big bag of haribo for pudding Xmas Grin

Seriously though, YANBU, especially about the sleep thing. I would not accept being woken in the middle of the night by anyone but DD who is in her own time zone apparently.

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SleighbellsRingInYourLife · 09/12/2012 17:18

They asked you to turn off your television in your house while your children were watching a film?

Shock

Who the fuck do they think they are?

I think that was the point at which in needed pointing out to them that you are doing them a massive favour and that they are free to fuck off if your generosity doesn't meet their approval.

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SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 09/12/2012 17:21

If deportation isn't on the cards then what Sleighbells said.

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:26

Can citizenship be revoked?

Presumably I'd only have to get one of them deported and the other would follow?

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OscarPistoriusBitontheside · 09/12/2012 17:27

So you have 2 Saffers and a German, 2 of them via the land of fruit and nuts and with with PFB x 2 going on? not wildly stereotyping at all

Jesus wept OP I salute you! Wink

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:35

Oscar, well, yes...

And don't forget my two DDs who are half Saffer each (and therefore amount to a whole extra Saffer between them), plus their two are half Saffer, half German and 100% Californian.

Stuff the wine, I'm hitting the gin.

I'm a minority in my own home.

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:38

I'm also going to bug their luggage, so as to hear the moment (about a week from now) when MIL goes into a indignant rant about them "Making extra work for the maids!"

Hmm

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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:45

Actually, I forgot for a minute that their two aren't actually half German, since DSILW is a woman and therefore unable to provide the required DNA. Blush

I have no idea what nationality their other half is... Blush

I did remark how much like DSILW one of them looked (she does!) and they were a bit Hmm. Perhaps they thought I was taking the piss. I wasn't. I just genuinely forgot they weren't biologically related...

Blush Blush

Maybe they think I'm an utter cow?!

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SleighbellsRingInYourLife · 09/12/2012 17:56


My (internationally adopted) cousin looks just like his sister, who is of different genetic parentage and a different ethnicity.

It happens.
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designerbaby · 09/12/2012 17:58

Sleigh...

They're super sensitive though...

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NeedlesCuties · 09/12/2012 18:06

OP, you earned your Wine when you said they're up at 1am bathing their girls!

You are more forgiving and patient than I would be...

Sometimes I actually am thankful for having a small house! Xmas Grin

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WayneDeer · 09/12/2012 18:09

Break out the pickled eggs, it's time for the guests to move on

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Willdoitinaminute · 09/12/2012 18:17

Tell them there's an outbreak of norovirus at your dd school. You won't see them for dust since D &V in twins is exponentially worse.

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Sokmonsta · 09/12/2012 18:23

Bucketfuls of gin for you x

Have they contacted the local hv about the twins? Might be someone who can indirectly support you/advise them on all things uk baby (and steers the flack away from you).

Also, could you invest in something like this huge piece of furniture to divide a room? You might be able to get even a second hand one cheaply as a temporary measure if they're sticking around for a while. It's not ideal but might give you somewhere to hide.

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lashingsofbingeinghere · 09/12/2012 18:45

I would tactfully suggest they look for a short let flat where they will be so much more comfortable.

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SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 09/12/2012 18:47

Babies pick up their facial expressions by copying their carers so it makes sense that you would spot similarities between your DN and SILW. DS has my twinkly-eyed mischief grin :o

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