To have filmed my ds1s preschool nativity play even though

[Nooneelseisallowedafergus]

We were expressly told no filming.

I did zoom in on just him ( as much as was possible ) and only filmed a few short clips, not the whole event.

I felt I would have really regretted not having captured the memory, and my son loves watching himself on film, and has already enjoyed watching the clips and singing along to the songs.

And I just don't see how a video of fully clothed children would be satisfying viewing for a peadophile. With this vein of thought surely we should start making our children wear burkas.

[SugaricePlumFairy]

the school did ask us not to put any photos on social media.........even though two of my friends have already done this

do you or your friends have no regard or respect of what the school ask?

[5dcsandallthelittlesantahats]

YABU if they specifically said no filming - there is probably a reason for this ( specific family/child who need to be protected).
At my childrens school they send a letter asking if there are any objections to filming, if there are im guessing it would be banned but since it has never been banned there must have never been any objections!.

I have to say filming the whole performance seems overkill to me. I have a pic of each of mine on stage, the rest of the play is other peoples children and tbh I dont really want film of them .

[ilovesooty]

do you or your friends have no regard or respect of what the school ask?

Evidently not, if it means they can't film their own special little snowflakes.

[gomummygone]

YABVVU.

And selfish.
And thoughtless.

[TalkinPeace2]

Did you have a cigarette in the school hall too? As that is banned.

It is such a shame when parents watch their screen rather than their children.

[pigletmania]

YANBU very sad that times have come to this. When I was at primary school it was usual for parents to film school plays. You only get this moment fr. Short time.

[pigletmania]

I think it's fine if op does not put it on Facebook o other media sights, ad just for personal use

[threesocksfullofchocs]

my dd is classed as a "looked after child"
so I would be careful about using that expresion as a reason why people can't film at schools.
she lives at home with her mum and dad.(me and dh)

[trueblood1fan]

am preying op is a troll either that or a very very very stoopid woman who thinks the world revolves around her & her precious dc. if not a wind up, delete your video if it contains other peoples children as you are in the wrong.

[TalkinPeace2]

What about emailing a still to a friend, who opens the email at work and a person looks over their shoulder

sorry, but the rules are there for sound reasons

at DCs junior school we had a couple of kids who could not be photographed.
The head said no filming but unlimited photos after the play
(during which those children were snuck out of the room)
the court order said no pictures - any parent doing so was in breach of the court order.

And once those kids left, then plays were full of parents looking at camcorder screens rather than the performance again.
Joy.

[DayShiftDoris]

Worra

OFSTED want evidence based, risk assessed policies that are inclusive to all whilst safeguarding children. The very fact that you are aware of how they get round the issue is actually an issue in itself and identifies the children.

A bit of accommodating doesn't cut it...

I wrote policies for the NHS trust I worked for and there are similar issues that HAVE to be written in before they can be accepted in practice. Right or wrong (and I am not sure where I sit here) there is no room any longer for organisations to 'accommodate' as they go along...

There is a huge argument against this but it is the way it is...

My son's school does everything by the letter this way and I fell foul of it because I wanted to opt him out of something but the ethos / policy doesnt allow it unless it's all documented, discussed and evidenced...

[DayShiftDoris]

three socks

Most LA's advise blanket ban photography if there is a LAC child in school - its a box ticking exercise but one that is very necessary for a lot of 'Looked after' children.
They do it to stop individual schools / nurseries making a judgement that identifies a child inadvertently because if that happened the circumstances could be disastrous.

But that said 3socks you are correct their are many children who are LAC but at home who it does not necessarily apply to...

OP... I would NOT dream of doing what you did - apart from anything else did you not consider that you might have been asked to leave or if found out banned from future performances?
In short I would have been too scared of being told off!

[NannyEggn0gg]

My school forbids photos and videos.
We take photos and a pretty good video which looks really professional when finished. The inexpensive CDs and DVDs are designed and printed so look good to keep and make excellent presents.

The other advantages are as follows:

Everyone can watch the performance in peace and the children can perform without random parents setting off flashes in their faces and bobbing up and down.
The school makes a little money that offsets the cost of the costumes etc and extra goes towards bringing in outside groups for other events.
We know which children need protecting and act accordingly.

I couldn't believe the poster who said her school prevented children who didn't have permission to be photographed from taking part - how mean!

[NannyEggn0gg]

Oh, and OP - unreasonable is not what I'd have called you if I'd caught you filming when you'd been asked not to!

[MargeySimpson]

Seeing a child on a ropey phone video on facebook is only the same as seeing them shopping/onthestreet/atathemepark/onholiday and coming across someone they know, who then passes on where they are or follows them. I've seen people from my childhood in disney world, florida on the otherside of the world.

YANBU OP. I wouldn't of done it beacuse I wouldn't of wanted to be in trouble with the teachers, not for child protection reasons!

[omgmydd1isnearly16amIoldenough]

I have also found that the school produced dvd's are done in such a way that they will play on computers etc but cannot be copied or sent to FB or any other social media website.

Most people think this is a way for schools to make money but I also agree with the thread above about watching the performance in peace and it not disrupting the children.

We recently had our dancing show and had to tell two parents to stop videoing who got into a strop and left even before their kids had danced

[MargeySimpson]

my ds's nursery has a calender all the parents get, you need to sign a permission form, if you don't return it, they don#t get to be in the calender, end of.

This is probably the only time on mumsnet I agree with Worra!

[MargeySimpson]

In cases of, if you don't let the one who hasn't got permission in the play, it's not fair. I don't think it's fair on the other 99% of the school who's parents can't have a memory of the day to share with family because of one child!

[MummytoKatie]

Margey Seriously?!? You think it is more important to be able to show granny the 37 seconds of your child being second snowflake on the left than it is that a child who has been through an incredibly difficult situation gets to actually take part in the show.

I guess it depends who you think childhood is for - the child or the parents / grandparents / aunties / second cousins twice removed.

I have a very poor visual memory so will genuinely struggle to accurately remember these moments. But I still get the point.

[ErikNorseman]

The school will be privy to any sensitive information and when filming the DVD can ensure that no children are included who shouldn't be. Parents obviously won't have that information. It's not just about flogging DVDs.

[MeToo2]

I did the same thing. Not the whole thing, just a short clip of my DC singing their little song. I also took a few photos. We were expressly asked not to take photos or video at the beginning of the performance. No forewarning. I had hunted about my cluttered office to make sure I found my camera - I am a proud mummy of 3 year old DC1 and there was no way I was leaving there without a photo! The reasons given for them not wanting photos/video had absolutely nothing to do with child protection. Namely, it was that some children get upset/nervous about it and it can get in the way of other parents seeing performance. I didn't feel these reasons were sufficient for me not to have a record of my child's performance. I turned off flash so children wouldn't be disturbed and stayed in my seat and tried to be as discreet as possible. Actually, video is mainly of two ladies sat in front of me, with DC peeking through a small gap!

I'm not sorry at all. I would do it again in a heartbeat, despite the looks and comments. But then, I'm not British, so maybe it's easier for me to not bow to social pressure!

BTW, I don't even put my own kids' pics on FB, so child protection not really an issue.

[exoticfruits]

People spoil it by all filming and photographing -it means that they are not really watching at the time.

[jamdonut]

My daughter's senior school forbids filming for protection reasons...and it kills me becase we have no record of those moments when she was singing solos etc in the school's productions,or the talent show. The best we could be allowed was sound recordings on my phone, but it was rubbish reproduction. Its horrible not to be able to capture these moments. Luckily, her Junior school allowed filming, so we have those, but its her grown up performances I want!!

[WorraLorraTurkey]

Doris

It's an OFTED outstanding rated school.

The kids are happy

The parents and carers are happy

It works for the school and OFSTED are delighted with it.

Sorry if you don't like or accept that but it's the way it is.

[TantrumsAndBalloons]

"I did not feel those reasons were sufficient enough"

So you are happy to ignore the rules because you don't agree with the reason because you are a "proud mummy"

So when another parent at school breaks a rule that they think is ok, maybe one that negativly impacts your dc, you won't say a word will you?

What an utterly horrible, entitled, selfish statement.
Proud mummy? Will that be held up as a reason for the next selfish thing you do?