to really dislike the newborn stage?

[CharlotteBronteSaurus]

DD2 is 5 weeks. She was a very welcome surprise, but by god I had blanked out how rotten the newborn stage is. She has three states: sleeping, feeding, and screaming. The latter predominates; the former is rare and very hard won. Occasionally I get rewarded with a smile, but most often these are reserved for the cat.

I am a knackered, scruffy harridan, barking at poor DD1 and fat through ready meals and comfort chocolate. AIBU to be counting down the days until she's a lovely giggly 6month old?

[dementedma]

its a horrible stage, they shit, scream and feed. that's all
toddlers are messy and demanding
bigger than that they get argumentative
teenagers (where I am now) steal your stuff and break up with their boyfriends and roll their eyes and have a better sex life than you do
there is no such thing as a good stage until they leave home

[glastocat]

YADNBU. I also hated the newborn stage, and pregnancy. I don't mind tiny babies interesting, or even particularly cute. I like children more as they get older, I'm besotted with my nine year old. I only had one kid because I didn't want to go through all that again (I had PND). I'm not going to apologise for my feelings, I had a rotten time until my son was about a year old, but I'm happy for those who enjoy that stage.

[Mumcentreplus]

I loved the newborn stage actually I would just look at them all the time...soo beautiful couldn't believe they both came from me...way better than the 8yr old who thinks she's 18 and wants a moblie phone and has hairs on her fanjo stage!!!

[hairyfairylights]

Well, apologies to those of you who were genuinely having a light hearted banter/problem sharing time, I was just commenting on some of the more choice posts here, which used quite insensitive words and phrases.

I do hope I/others haven't killed the thread.

[AnnieLobeseder]

Wow, way to kill a thread.

[PressureDrop]

It's not really a subject I want to debate in this level of detail, so I think I'll leave the thread now, too.

But I have also experienced loss, so perhaps think about what you say in future, too. 'It's not a competito'n was quite spiteful.

If you want understanding, show some, too.

[hairyfairylights]

Don't really care thefurryone - there are some really emotive things said here. Light hearted banter is one thing, but some of the comments (admittedly just a few) are quite offensive.

PMSL at self-absorbed. My very much wanted baby's heart stopped beating at 8 weeks.

I never got to hear it scream, or see it poo, or experience my nipples being sore.

I'm merely commenting about some of the very insensitive posts on the preceding pages.

pressuredrop I'm not being hostile. Sorry if you think what I've said is hostile, but perhaps you should not be in AIBU if you can't cope with this level of 'hostility'?

I am stepping off the thread, but I do wish people would be just a weeny bit more sensitive.

[AnnieLobeseder]

Hairy, I'm sorry you're being upset by this thread, but instead of having a go at us, why it just ignore it? People have lost husbands, sisters, mothers on MN. But that doesn't mean that other people won't post about what a twunt their DH, DM, DSis is currently being. We can't post on eggshells all the time.

I hope you have a frustrating newborn of your own soon, I really do.

[pigletmania]

Hairy yes I hated the newborn stage, not my beautiful dd. If you are having problems with ttc, than a thread about people who have just had a baby talking about newborn baby stages is not the thread for you as you will be sensitive about it. I would step back from this thread.

[thefurryone]

Sorry hairyfairy but I think you're being a little bit self-absorbed I've read this whole thread and no one is saying that they hate their children just that some stages of parenting are more challenging than others. I've actually found most of the thread to be quite tongue in cheek.

It's very sad for you that you have suffered but try and be a bit gentle on yourself, clicking on threads about new born babies clearly just upsets you and having a go at people for talking about their parenting experiences isn't going to make your pain go away.

[PressureDrop]

Maybe you should step off the thread if you can't post without such hostility? Blimey.

[hairyfairylights]

and this is, after all, AIBU. So the answer is yes, and I've illustrated why.

[hairyfairylights]

It's not light banter, people using words like 'hate'. The light banter bits I get, I have no issue with that, but some of the posts are really quite insensitive.

Bully for you with all your pregnancy related issues, it's not a competition.

[PressureDrop]

Oh come on. We have to be able to have some light banter and let off steam.

I have had two miscarriages and all sorts of other awful pregnancy-and-birth related experiences which I won't bore you all with now, but I am allowed to say 'the newborn stage was fucking horrendous in my experience', surely?

[hairyfairylights]

"hairy- why would you assume that just because someone posts about the realities of parenthood, that they dont also know the pain of miscarriage?"

I don't. Where have I said that?

[hairyfairylights]

people are allowed to talk about them and find them difficult (I've been around enough (neices and nephews) to know that it's not easy)

However, there are some really awful comments here, which, if you read them back from the perspective of someone who can't have a newborn, or has miscarried, then you will realise just how very insensitive they are. :(

[Wallace]

motherinferior - god yes i find 9 year old girls hard work!

[pigletmania]

Well yes lynette, instead of screaming and screaming, I can acutally talk to her and is easier to calm down than a bawling baby.

[LynetteScavo]

Oh, I do like a child you can reason with!

[PressureDrop]

I found the first year hard work with my first baby. He was a 'sleep-feed-or scream lots' baby, too. I was a fat , barking harridan that whole year . I found 3-4 yrs quite a challenge with him, too, though . Now almost 6 yrs old and really enjoying his funny little personality now.

Second baby - newborn stage was a dream. She slept loads for the first 6 months and was peaceful and smiley when she was awake.She is 2 yrs old now and still a delight. I can only imagine that she'll be one hell of a stroppy teen

[darleneconnor]

hairy- why would you assume that just because someone posts about the realities of parenthood, that they dont also know the pain of miscarriage?

Why read threads like this if you know that you will be upset by them? It's not like anyone has said anything nasty.

[pigletmania]

Lol wyaoftheworld, yes as the bad things fade unto oblivon as the years go by. We are having great difficulty having a dc2 so I am trying to savour every moment with dd, as I might not have a number 2

[wayoftheworld]

Lynette than comes schooling, friends and bulling....

[pigletmania]

Not for me no Lynette, I prefer the toddler/preschool stage, you can reason with them, do things and get better night sleep.

[wayoftheworld]

pigletmania one day we will look upon these days with tinted glasses and rembember only the good things. When our future in laws will complain we will wander what is all the fuss about??? hang on I sound like my MIL already!!!