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US Man Says He's Trans Just to Make Demands & Trouble At Work

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Vegilante · 08/11/2018 00:57

www.wweek.com/news/2018/11/07/a-transgender-powells-employee-says-the-bookstore-refused-to-designate-a-gender-neutral-restroom-in-its-corporate-office/

No demand or complaint by someone supposedly trans is too petty or trivial and for the press to ignore.

Now self-proclaimed non-binaries apparently expect to be provided with gender-neutral toilets. Because using a restroom that isn't tailor-made exactly for their special gender identity would violate their human rights & deprive them of dignity. Or something.

It's a real mystery why this guys co-workers didn't invite him to the ladies' lunch!

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Slapdasherie · 08/11/2018 01:16

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it, too.

Gender neutral for loos, but a lady when there's food he likes on offer. Plus you have to really like him and be his friend no matter how annoying you find him.

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Coyoacan · 08/11/2018 04:39

"People were so afraid to misgender me they would avoid talking to me altogether," Brewer says

Classic

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Charliethefeminist · 08/11/2018 04:40

Omy Lord what an irritating individual. It's all about attention seeking and power. Those poor women must be so excited to get rid of him.

It's the way we are headed. Creeps that no one likes now have a prime opportunity to label dislike and unpopularity as 'harassment', and force women people around them to walk on eggshells.

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TinyRick · 08/11/2018 06:11

Had to double check the web address as I thought it was The Onion.

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Igneococcus · 08/11/2018 06:24

Completely off topic, but Powell's bookshop is awesome, the largest takes up an entire city block.
Portland is the wokest place in the universe and I'm amazed that Powell's didn't fall over themselves to accommodate every whim of this employer.

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Igneococcus · 08/11/2018 06:45

employee, I mean

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Turph · 08/11/2018 06:47

They hasn't aged well for 37. Is they trans-aged?

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Sarahjconnor · 08/11/2018 06:54

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NonaGrey · 08/11/2018 06:57

I’m a bit confused.

He asked for a gender neutral bathroom and got one.

This person identifies as gender neutral to the point that they demand to be called “they” so why would they expect to attend a women’s lunch? Brewer doesn’t identify a woman.

Give how much difficulty Inhad writing this post to take into account the “they” pronouns I’m not sure it’s surprising their colleagues found avoiding “he” or “she” difficult in daily life.


However I suspect the avoiding was because they didn’t like Brewer rather than anything else.

I’m not really clear why his GP was writing to HR in the first place.

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NonaGrey · 08/11/2018 06:58

Thinks not being invited to the ladies Mexican lunch is bullying but is aiming to become a high school maths teacher

I do wonder how he plans to cope with teenagers...

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Juells · 08/11/2018 07:14

Not on his side by any means, but having a Ladies Lunch was a bit transparent. They should probably have sucked it up and invited him along to a general lunch, no matter how annoying he may be.

As pp have said, what an irritating, entitled, controlling knob.

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LumpSatAloneInABoggyMarsh · 08/11/2018 07:19

Why can't gender neutral people just use either bathroom as they see fit?

I've had to use a male bathroom before. Didn't hurt my feelings or bruise my fragile self image!

Do you think we could become Age Trans? Because today I don't identify with being an adult. This bloody world is too much right now.

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Plessis · 08/11/2018 07:20

Maybe they didn't like they so didn't invite they to the lunch for that reason. That's OK isn't it?

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TimeLady · 08/11/2018 07:20

I take my hat off to the colleague who came up with the idea of a ladies-only lunch Grin Mean? Yes, but he* probably deserves it.

(*Can't write they, MNHQ, as that would infer I was referring to the ladies).

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LumpSatAloneInABoggyMarsh · 08/11/2018 07:20

And actually, I suspect they invented the ladies lunch as an excuse not to invite him/them because he's/they're an irritating dick.

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InProgress · 08/11/2018 07:22

So they is indulgent of they's colleagues misgendering them until they deems it malicious, then they's not?

I'm confused Confused

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LumpSatAloneInABoggyMarsh · 08/11/2018 07:22

So the lesson the ladies in the office should learn is; just be honest and say 'We're sorry but we're just not inviting you'

People are allowed to invite who they want to social functions. Being asked to lunch isn't a human right.

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Urbanbeetler · 08/11/2018 07:25

It’s not really ok to have a lunch for the entire department bar one person. Whatever way you look at it, it’s exclusionary.

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BlardyBlar · 08/11/2018 07:27

In August, Brewer's accounting colleagues held a "ladies' lunch" at a Mexican restaurant. All nine of Brewer's co-workers in the department are women. Only Brewer wasn't invited. Instead, Brewer says, they were asked to stay behind to answer phones.

Gillette, with Basic Rights Oregon, says transgender people commonly experience such harassment at work.

I read the article and it raised the suspicion (again) that the reason so many people who claim to be trans are “bullied” is because they are extremely difficult people.

The whole thing was difficult to read due to the ungrammatical use of they/them, where he or she is appropriate.

I genuinely can’t imagine trying to remember to use they/them in speech. I can just about manage it when typing, but it’s not easy.

So I can easily imagine relationships quickly becoming frayed if someone insisted on their use and was impatient when mistakes were made.

And extrapolating from that, I can imagine all the women in the office seizing upon a way to socialise without asking the person they perceive as the source of the discord.

When I see the constant claims of harassment at work, I wonder how many are related to being trans and how many are due to the high co-morbidity with personality disorders.

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Plessis · 08/11/2018 07:28

urban it might not be kind but who knows how unpleasant they were at work.

I can't stop my employees going out for lunch together and not inviting someone, particularly if someone is needed to stay behind.

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DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 08/11/2018 07:28

Poor snoflake.

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BruceAndNosh · 08/11/2018 07:35

I've used the men's loos when the queue for the women's was far too long.
I survived (albeit with a damages sense of smell afterwards)

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RustyParker · 08/11/2018 07:36

I love that they is called Zee! (Ze/Hir - remember those pronouns?!)

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Urbanbeetler · 08/11/2018 07:37

We don’t know, that’s the point. They feels they was being bullied. We don’t know they wasn’t.

But that feels so clunky to type :(

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Plessis · 08/11/2018 07:39

We do know that they weren't being bullied as the HR dept ruled that they weren't.

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