So disappointed about Vagina Museum.

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

There are plans for one. But they are explicitly NOT celebrating "the female reproductive system". Guess why.

I went to an event promoting it tonight, and it was generally great - especially the talk on the history of the word cunt, & the charity providing sanpro for asylum seekers & refugees.

There was a lot about the importance of being able to talk about our bodies, the odd reference to "Vagina-havers" or "people with periods" but it was rare enough that I could largely ignore it.

Then at the end of the evening I realised that the museum's strapline was about "celebrating vaginas & the people who have them". The organiser then announced a future event featuring Sophie LaBelle of Assigned Male. FFS.

What finished it off for me was a look at their website, where they explain that they don't talk about female reproductive systems because that would be trans-exclusionary.

This could have been a brilliant opportunity to celebrate women as a sex & our bodies. But it's not.

[vaginafetishist]

Vaginas are awesome. They are attached to women.

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

Exactly. Just like clitorises are attached to women.

Royally pissed off.

[Mrsknackered]

Very disappointing.

A trans vagina is never quite going to be the same is it? They're not going to have a baby delivered through their inverted penis and it most certainly will not bounce back to its normal size. How can they have a whole museum of fanny and completely ignore the fact that a biological females vagina is no where near the same fucking thing as a trans vag.

[PersonA]

When will this end?

When men have taken everything away from women?

When “woman” no longer means anything?

You can be a person with a vagina. You can be a woman with a vagina. You cannot be a man with a vagina.

If you are man who has had “bottom surgery” you still don’t have a vagina. You may have something that resembles one, but it is not one.

I’m scared for our future, I really am.

[Melamin]

What's the point of it otherwise?

[AngryAttackKittens]

What does Sophie LaBelle have to contribute to a conversation about vaginas? Other than that we're privileged for having them.

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

Fuck knows. There was no actual reference to neovaginas during the event to be fair, but in an evening of talk about periods, pelvic floors post-birth & cunts throughout history there really wasn't a place for them.

I thought the occasional "Vagina havers" stuff was a polite nod towards transmen until they mentioned Sophie (Q&A and signing their new book on the trials of being trans, apparently) & I saw the strapline.

I now can't believe they're not going to include neovaginas in their museum. How far is it from neovaginas to lady penises?

[AngryAttackKittens]

"This vagina is an outie vagina, just like some people have outie bellybuttons. Stop snickering, you evil bigots."

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

Thanks for making me laugh! I just couldn't believe that in the same breath as saying we should talk about our female bodies, they're saying they're not going to talk about our female bodies...

[BlindYeo]

It's starting to frighten me how far this madness has gone. The TRAs seem to have their testicles tentacles everywhere.

There must be a huge amount of money backing them.

[Everyonematters]

Is this a satire thread? I can't see anything about this on the site?

[TallulahWaitingInTheRain]

I don't think I understand what words mean any more

[AngryAttackKittens]

@ Flamingo



It's either laugh or cry really. This shit is ridiculous.

[TheXXFactor]

Fucking ridiculous. Though I am amused to see they are prepared for the MN Vulva Police: www.vaginamuseum.co.uk/faq

[AngryAttackKittens]

Did someone not warn them about how transphobic their planned selection of baked goods is? Apparently they intend to offer vulva cupcakes. I anticipate screaming meltdowns by the espresso machine.

[BlindYeo]

Given that a trans speaker is already lined up, I wonder if a TRA-type organisation has offered funding.

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

Is this a satire thread? I can't see anything about this on the site?

There's nothing on the site about lady penises. There are the bits about trans-inclusivity & Sophie Labelle, though.

And there was so much good stuff in the event tonight. But the bit in their FAQs about the female reproductive system being trans exclusionary ruins it.

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

Maybe, Blimd.

[AngryAttackKittens]

So vaginas are like Nessie, there are many rumors that they may exist but we need this museum to definitely confirm that they're out there.

[Triliteration]

Oh no!!! They accidentally included the words “gynaecological anatomy” in their nonsense. Someone should tell them that such a term is the most transphobic term imaginable. Literal violence in fact.

[EmpressOfJurisfiction]

They mention FGM too.

This is like WEP. Something that sounds as if it's going to be all about women, then they make it very clear that it isn't.