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God almighty. 44 year old teacher has sex with 16 year old pupil and is spared prison

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 14/01/2015 13:30

Because the girl groomed him rather than the other way around according to the judge.
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/14/former-london-teacher-convicted-over-affair-with-teenager

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MaudieAtkinsonsGardeningHat · 14/01/2015 13:52

Just saw this and came on to start a thread Smile

Fucking unbelievable! Having sex the same week his wife had a miscarriage and SHE led HIM on. She was 15!!!!!!!

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 14/01/2015 13:53

Disgusting.

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ChunkyPickle · 14/01/2015 14:03

Absolutely unbelievable. Not only was he 44, but also a teacher, yet he's not to blame.

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ReallyTired · 14/01/2015 14:08

That is awful. A teacher is in a position of trust and teens have crushes on teachers all the time. I feel the adult has forgotten who the adult was.

I feel desperately sorry for the teacher's wife. Having a miscarriage and your husband cheating on her with a fifteen year old in the same week is truly horrendous.

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Mengog · 14/01/2015 14:28

She was 16. Which is probably why he was spared prison.

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AngelinaCongleton · 14/01/2015 14:34

I really don't understand this ruling. At all.

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 14/01/2015 14:34

She was 15 when the offences occurred.

He was groomed? Is that what we're calling it now, when middle aged men are flattered by a school girl crush and then cheat on their wives and have sex with children they are in a position of power over?

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Mengog · 14/01/2015 14:39

Unless I'm reading it wrong he was cleared of the offences relating to her when she was 15.

He was found guilty of having sex with a child whilst in a position of trust. This offence, I believe, is only committed on people aged 16 and 17.

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 14/01/2015 14:44

I think you're right actually, sorry.

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scallopsrgreat · 14/01/2015 14:46

Who gives a fuck Mengog whether she was 15 or 16? She did not "groom" him. She was not in a position to "groom" him. And the fact that 'temptation' is even a word that is used between a 44 yr old man and a 16 yr old girl shows just how much men's behaviour is excused and blame is put on victims.

Why should/would a 44 yr old be 'tempted' by a school girl?

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42bunnytails1 · 14/01/2015 14:49

16 or not, when they had sex, this 'affair' was clearly going on when she was 15/16 and therefore in Y11.

There is no grey area, she was a school child in his care! exactly when her birthday was is, morally, totally irrelevant.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/01/2015 14:53

Appalling. It doesn't matter what she did, if you can't manage to say no to a sixteen year old you're not up to being a teacher. It also sounds like it developed over time, so he had plenty of chances to back away / get help.

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 14/01/2015 14:53

She has fundamentally misunderstood the concept of grooming if she thinks a child can do it to an adult in a position of trust and responsibility.

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 14/01/2015 14:54

Yes this conniving cunt sorry victim was probably clever enough to wait until she was 16 before having sex. Not in control of his behaviour my arse Hmm

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 14/01/2015 14:55

I crossed out the wrong expression there! Blush

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Mengog · 14/01/2015 15:09

The only reason I pointed out the age is the offence is less serious. Which is most likely why he didn't go to prison.

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scallopsrgreat · 14/01/2015 15:11

But that crime still carries a prison sentence. So there must have been the extenuating circumstances of her 'grooming' him that excused him.

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CrispyFern · 14/01/2015 15:18

I don't mean to be funny but why is it always RE teachers?

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Theoldhag · 14/01/2015 15:18

Fucking hell, anyone would think that we are in Victorian times. A child grooming an adult man of 44 ffs!

What is wrong with people?

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BreakingDad77 · 14/01/2015 15:37

Female judge as well WTH

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LineRunner · 14/01/2015 15:39

Women can be misogynistic.

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Marphe · 14/01/2015 15:42

Even if the 15/16yo did "groom" him surely a senior teacher of his experience is trained to recognise this and put a stop to it early on.

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scallopsrgreat · 14/01/2015 15:43

I am nearly his age. I seriously cannot think of any circumstances I would even want to have a sexual relationship with a 16 yr old. It wouldn't even be on my radar. Why was it on his?

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LaurieFairyCake · 14/01/2015 15:51

'Groom' is entirely the wrong word and its totally wrong to use it, 'pursue' is what happened.

And any man pursued by a child knows to say no, any who don't are child abusers.

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MarjorieMelon · 14/01/2015 15:52

When I read cases like this the only logical conclusion I can come to is that the judge is a paedophile who likes sex with underage children.

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