wwyd? dds detention

[ilikeyourface]

Today in school dd was in history, andc they were learing about how Women helped in the war. A boy in her class ( who she has known since primary and are actually prety good friends) sarted saying how women shouln't have been helping in the war, they should have been at home baking, and we could have won the war alot quicker if they have staying where they belonged. Dd chalanged this which turned into a argument with him about sexism (quite lightheartedly she says as like I said they are friends) before dd got angry and sqirted some water at him. She got a detention for this.
In dds school you can ring up and say that your child doesnt have to do the detention if you give a valid reason. Part of me says 'make her do the detention, she shouldnt have squirted the water and should be punished
However another part of me says she was standing up for herself and other women so I should ring up
They are 14 btw .... wwyd

[DaenerysTargaryensDragonBaby]

The debate was fine. Arguing was fine, Standing up for herself/women was fine (very commendable, actually).

Squirting the water was not fine, and she has been fairly punished.

[FannyFifer]

Squirting water negates anything that came before, she lost her temper, has detention, she deserves it.

[FannyFifer]

Losing temper & squirting water not really a feminist issue though.

[shakinstevenslovechild]

I would let the detention stand, the debate was fine, getting angry and squirting water at someone to make your point is not.

[Philoslothy]

Are you seriously excusing squirting water at another student?

[Bowlersarm]

Arguments are fine. Disagreements are fine.

Getting physical because you can't agree isn't fine!

Se deserves the detention for skirting the water.

[Ifcatshadthumbs]

The detention is for squirting water not the feminist debate she behaved in appropriately so should do the detention.

[MothratheMighty]

It was the water that got her into trouble, not her feminist stance.
So she deserves the detention.

[ilikeyourface]

Haha okay ill let the detention stand , I do think I was being a bit pfb when dd told me looking for an something to be a bit wound up with. Thankyou , im glad I have something like mumsnet so I can get a food veiw before I jump and do something! Thankyou all, im not usually this ridiculous, I promise!

[waltermittymissus]

This is nothing to do with feminism.

She's getting a detention for squirting water at someone and so she should!

[Lottiedoubtie]

I concur with everyone else!

Give her a book to read on feminism when she gets home so she can be more eloquent next time.

[waltermittymissus]

X-post :)

[Floggingmolly]

Do you really believe she's being punished for "standing up for herself and other women"? Come on

[FannyFifer]

Thank goodness, you would have looked a bit silly phoning the school.
Glad you've seen sense OP.

[Bifauxnen]

Would make her do the dt but would mention to staff that I don't expect her to have to put up with bigotry in the classroom.

[ilikeyourface]

Im going to call dd down now and tell her ' allthough it is okay to voice your opinion , you xannot go around loosing your temper throughing water at people expecting no punishment , therefore I shall make you do the detention and I hope you learn'

I wouldnt have ever thought of that if I hadnt started this theread, mumsnet teaches you alot

[AcrylicPlexiglass]

He sounds v annoying, like my sons. Squirting him with water does sound like fun and richly deserved but I think you always have to be prepared to take the consequences when undertaking such action as teachers tend not to see the funny side for fear that the whole class will erupt into a massive water fight. I think she will survive the detention unscathed and maybe she can take a super soaker in on the last day of summer term and deluge him.

[Notify]

That sounds like an excellent lesson to me. A are platform for everyone to state and debate their views. To say the boy should be taken to task is ridiculous

[Notify]

A safe platform....

[RiverTam]

I wish I could get away with squirting water at anyone who's spouting nonsense at me

[longtallsally2]

Tell her that you are really proud of her for having the sense to argue her case, and not just to roll her eyes and let him get away with such sexist nonsense.

Then tell her that squirting water still earns you a detention.

(Would she read Mandela's Long Walk to Freedom? It discusses clearly when to move from non-violent argument to a more violent response, when faced with repression!)

[DaenerysTargaryensDragonBaby]

Nice work OP.

Your DD sounds great, btw,

But yeah, you can use this opportunity to teach her not to lose her temper.

[longtallsally2]

squirting water is not really a feminist issue though - I think that should be the MN quote of the week!

[SirChenjin]

If she was chaining herself to railings or threatening to throw herself underneath the Kings horse then you might have a valid argument . As it is, she deserves her detention - tell her to use her superior intellect to challenge these stereotypes next time