All mascara smudges - even waterproof!

[Kai1977]

I have no idea why this keeps happening but even when I wear waterproof mascaras (upper lashes only) recommended online by many other people, mine always seems to end up slightly smudged in the outer eye-bag area beneath my eye.

I don't rub my eyes through the day so does anyone have any idea why this keeps happening. Could my under eye concealer be to blame somehow or am I just odd?

(I have a similar problem with waterproof eyeliners, again upper lashes only)!

[LemonRedwood]

I had this problem until I started using a tubing mascara. Currently use loreal's double ended one (with the white stuff you put on first) that's in a red tube. Not at home otherwise I'd tell you the exact name!

[InTheKitchenAtParties]

I have the problem. I only use waterproof, wouldn't even contemplate anything else. I still end up with smudgy eyes

[poppym12]

I don't use concealer very often but if I do, I make sure I pat powder on top otherwise I end up with smudgy mascara. Seems to work for me.

[Balloondog]

Same here until I started using tuning mascara about a year ago on the advice of someone on here... I use the Clinique one, it's been great... that reminds me, I need to stock up!

[Balloondog]

Argh! Tubing not tuning!!

[lifesuckssometimes]

This could be me.

[Eevee77]

I use L'Oréal tubing mascara too. I'll be honest, I don't love the finished look as much as I do from other mascaras but other mascaras will always end up giving me panda eyes so....

The L'Oréal mascara does not budge. Amazing

[CadleCrap]

Yes yes to tubing mascara. I have never worn it as it always smudges. I am not in UK but every seems to rave about the boots one. I use the L'Oréal double ended red one.

[Follyfoot]

Have you tried No 7 mascara in the gold tube? It's the only one I've ever found that doesn't smudge on me.

[Eevee77]

No solution for the eyeliner though eyelid primers and powder before applying is supposed to help but I've not explored this yet but I feel your pain

[FortyFacedFuckers]

I posted a few years ago about the same problem and was told to buy tubing mascara I bought the No7 gold tube and have never looked back it's amazing.

[javabean34]

Have you tried Urban Decay's Cannonball Ultra Waterproof Mascara? It works for me --- was originally designed for surfers

[Kai1977]

This is great, thank you! Will try out the tubing stuff (never heard of it before).

Any other tips for eyeliner smudging? Gel ones are usually OK but sometimes I want more of a pencil look on top and bottom.

[FrustratedFrugal]

Do you have deep-set or hooded eyes? I do and mascaras and eye pencils smear - and I never rub my eyes (and I use eye products only on my upper lids). Tubing mascaras really work, they stay put.

[Kai1977]

Thanks Frustrated yes I guess my lids are fairly heavy, but also my lashes are long so I do wonder if they are just flickering against the skin underneath and mixing with oil in my concealer etc.

I am definitely going to try the tips out.

Do you have an issue with eyeliner?

[FrustratedFrugal]

Can't wear winged eye liner (wrong eye shape) but eye pencil worn as upper liner and tightlined smudge horribly. These days I use wet eye shadow, it stays on better and the smudginess looks intentional.

Try making a video using the camera on your phone of what happens when you move your eyes and flutter your lashes - I could see that my upper lid is like a sliding door, the lashes and lid and eye socket are constantly touching.

[Umirrific]

Yes, yes, yes to tubing mascara. I like the Clinique curling one best then the gold No 7 one. I also use wet eyeshadow to line as I started to find all pencil eyeliner strayed. I think it's as I've got older my upper eyelids have started to droop a bit

[FrustratedFrugal]

And if you wonder why I am not wearing winged liner, this is the best-case scenario what it looks like on hooded eyes (eyes not mine!). Fairly tricky to draw and strong liner makes my small eyes look even smaller.

[AlfaMum]

I use Liz Earle mascara. All others leave me with panda eyes by lunchtime but not LE. Worth considering.

[pomadas87]

I completely agree about tubing mascaras - life changing! I used to have panda eyes by lunchtime everyday - now my favourite combo is Clinique High Impact Waterproof (green tube) with Clinique Bottom Lash mascara on lower lashes (sounds like a waste of time but it's great!).

For going out, I like Urban Decay eye primer (purple tube), then Prestige liquid liner which is only about a fiver

[DancingHouse]

I stopped using moisteriser and serums in the morning. Mascara would slip straight off if they hadn't had time to sink in.