Wood burning stoves

[longtallsally2]

How much does a wood burning stove cost to install - heating a lounge only, not a boiler - and can you get them second hand??

Any advice much appreciated.

[AnnOnymity]

Can't answer the first one but you can definitely get them second hand. Ebay and reclamation yards have them .

[amy83firsttimer]

Instalation costs depend on condition of chimney. If it's intact and lined, cheap. If it's blocked up and unlined, less cheap.

[AnnOnymity]

Although, the ones I've seen second hand aren't very efficient. I've been looking because we're hoping to take out an inefficient one and replace it with something more modern.

[specialsubject]

we paid about £600 for installation with the chimney already lined.

do not short cut on this. Apart from the fire risk of a blunder, you need a HETAS-registered installer who can certify it for building regs. Otherwise you won't be insured if there's a fire.

[Gatekeeper]

Mine cost about £1300' which includes hearth, mantle, liner, registry plate, flue , all knocking out, plastering and making good and all other materials. Two days work, mucky and noisy job but worth every penny

[longtallsally2]

Thank you - really helpful

Exciting possibility

[pigsinmud]

Ours was much more. We had several quotes and they were all roughly the same. We needed a cherry picker to do the roof (chimney stack had been removed) and smashing up of current fire place to enlarge and then replastering. It came to £4800 plus the stove (£1200 for the one we liked). So about £6000 altogether.

[Kundry]

Depends on if you need the chimney lined or not, and then how difficult it is to do.

You need to get a stove appropriate for the size of room you want to heat - worth getting specialist advice, but then you can get them second hand and even new prices vary massively.

However chimney lining is where the £££££s come in. I needed scaffolding for them to access the chimney as well - came to a few thousand pounds, most of which was the work for the lining.

[Stirrup]

You can get ex display ones a little cheaper. I scoured the internet for ours. Found an ex display in Northern Scotland and liaised with the shop to get it delivered to SE England.

It was a mammoth operation but saved us a couple of hundred!

[soundevenfruity]

Would the installation costs be different if the chimney is installed Scandi way, ie no existing chimney and straight through the wall outside?

[Gatekeeper]

you wouldn't necessarily save on installation costs and you would end up paying a lot more for twin walled flue

[Gatekeeper]

here are some links for places that sell second hand ones and ex display; best off ringing up and ask as they have stuff that they haven't had time to put on website

www.simplystoves.co.uk/2nd%20hand%20stoves.html
www.deanforge.co.uk/products/woodburning-multi-fuel-stoves/sale-stoves/
www.stovecentre.co.uk/index.php?option=com_tienda&view=products&filter_category=21:second-hand-&Itemid

I got our Morso Panther from Dean Forge for £700; they put in new glass, ropes, firebricks and sprayed it and it looked like new. On profile if you want to see

[trackydacks]

We've had two put in (different houses). Installation on the first was about £2200 with flue out through the wall and up the gable end (Victorian semi but chimney breasts removed upstairs).

Marginally cheaper in our current house, with existing chimney, but it still needed liner, register plate, existing fire place taken out, brickwork removed to make the right depth, new hearth, making good etc. They also needed a cherry picker to access the roof/chimney.

[PigletJohn]

if you're spending much on the installation, consider a multifuel rather than a woodburner.

[worldgonecrazy]

We put a wood burning stove into an existing fireplace. We just needed the chimney swept, and a plate to prevent any hot soot falling back down the chimney. We didn't need the chimney lined, just a few feet of stove pipe up the chimney. I'm not sure why chimenys need lining? After all, if you have a real fire you don't need the chimney lined?

We have had another wood burner installed in a modern (no chimney) house. The stove is 1500 new and the chimney/installation is another 2,500 on top of that.

[LadyKooKoo]

You need a liner for a stove because otherwise it is not installed as per building regs. Worldgonecrazy, was yours fitted by a HETAS registered engineer?

[Solo]

I'm looking at a multifuel with the view that I really only want to burn wood in it unless I have to use coal.
I'm hoping to spend no more that £2500 in total.

My friends one was installed by a company and men used ladders, so kept the cost down; tis fab!! I can't wait!!

[worldgonecrazy]

ladykookoo HETAS wasn't in existence when we had it fitted, so things may have changed. It does say in the regulations "1.26 Where it is proposed to bring a flue in an existing chimney back into use . . . . . . the flue and the chimney should be checked and if necessary, altered to ensure that they satisfy the requirements for the proposed use." Our chimney was in good repair and regularly serviced by a qualifed sweep who made no comments.

As I said, things may have changed in the 20 years since we had it fitted.

[SwedishEdith]

I think they need to be lined as stoves burn hotter than open fires so the cement (?) lining might crack. That could be a story put out by the liner industry of course

[OliviaBenson]

We had our stove put into an existing chimney. We had two separate hetas engineers come round to quote- both said we didn't need a liner after checking the chimney, and ours has been signed off.

[Marlowjen]

HAS ANYONE USED A SMALL INDEPENDANT INSTALLER AROUND MARLOW/MAIDENHEAD WHO YOU THINK IS REASONABLE, AND DOES A GREAT JOB WITH GOOD AFTER SALES SERVICE?

[lighteningirl]

We've installed two log burners ourselves in the last three years and sold the first property no mention of building regs in the sale my home insurance said it didn't affect the policy as there was a chimney and open fire before.

[WhoTheFuckIsSimon]

Mine cost about 4.5k total for a multifuel.

It wasn't the cheapest stove, think stove was £1400. I also had a £500 wooden beam fitted which pushed up the total cost and I had to have a larger hole knocked out of the chimney breast and some plastering of the hole done.

[blueandgreendots]

We're trying to get one in before Christmas. Its going to cost about 3K in total including a £650 stove. Quite a lot of work involved in digging out and lining the chimney in our 50's house.

[ScoopyDoo]

I've just put one in. Stove plus installation (incl chimney lining) was about £1800 for a 4KW woodburner, but I also needed to lift the lintel on the chimney breast so this cost extra £££, plus a new slate hearth. All in all, together with redecoration (did it myself), about £3k.
Worth every penny. I got several quotes from HETAS engineers, and went with one who wasn't the cheapest but was the most pedantic about safety. In the end though I bought the stove using his discount at the shop so I clawed some of the extra back.
I have, after a week, realised I need to buy a Dustbuster though - wood and ash is messy! But I am in stove heaven.