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I know I'm being unreasonable...

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thesnootyfox Thu 10-Jan-13 23:00:27

But I really find young people (under 25) who have Tory values very very annoying.

claig Thu 10-Jan-13 23:20:01

So you find the majority of people under 25 annoying?
Stop being so snooty and accept that it is a free country and people have different views to you. Not everybody is a Guardianista and the majority of people under 25 read the Daily Mail and the Sun rather than Left Foot Backward.

DSM Thu 10-Jan-13 23:30:58

'the majority of people under 25 read the Daily Mail and the Sun'


claig Thu 10-Jan-13 23:33:45

'rather than Left Foot Backward'

TinyDiamond Thu 10-Jan-13 23:42:20

since when do the majority of under 25s have Tory opinions? what a ridiculous thing to say

claig Thu 10-Jan-13 23:44:25

since the last election

DSM Thu 10-Jan-13 23:44:40

Claig - WTF are you on about?!

claig Thu 10-Jan-13 23:46:26

Tory values!

DrRanj Thu 10-Jan-13 23:49:25

Young people have very black and white values, e.g "benefit claimers are scroungers", "if you work hard you deserve to be rewarded" , all quite Tory values. They have not experienced life and its ups and downs and are not as tolerant. As you go through life you learn that shit happens despite your best intentions/efforts so therefore you become more sympathetic to the plights of others.

At least that's pretty much what happened in my case anyway...grin

DSM Thu 10-Jan-13 23:49:53

So you think the majority of people under 25 have Tory values, and read the daily mail and the sun?

TinyDiamond Thu 10-Jan-13 23:53:08

I'd love to see your evidence. you've researched it extensively have you?

claig Thu 10-Jan-13 23:53:26

Not only do I think so, but DrRanj agrees! Don't believe the leftwing media hype that tells you that young people are socialists, the real majority read the Sun and the Daily Mail, but the leftwing media and TV channeles keep that quiet, because they wish it wasn't so.

stargirl1701 Thu 10-Jan-13 23:53:38

I think the majority of under 25s couldn't give a hoot about politics.

That is reflected in voter turnout time and again.

TinyDiamond Thu 10-Jan-13 23:55:09

and BTW if I was making up statistics of my own a more realistic one is 'the majority of under 25s don't read a newspaper or have any political bias at all'

claig Thu 10-Jan-13 23:55:24

'I'd love to see your evidence'

Look at the demographic of the young people who choose to read the Sun and those who read leftwing papers.

GozerTheGozerian Thu 10-Jan-13 23:55:34

God I'd rather talk to someone with some values that they could at least articulate, even if I didn't agree with them. Three cheers for values, I say, it's apathy you should be worrying about.

TinyDiamond Thu 10-Jan-13 23:56:13

you are very ill informed. how old are you?

DSM Thu 10-Jan-13 23:56:47

Oh DrRanj agrees? I stand corrected hmm

A good friend works for the Scottish Youth Parliament - an organisation that deals solely in the political views of under 26's. I can absolutely say that the majority of politically interested under 26's are neither Tory nor Daily Mail readers. It's pretty fairly split - much like any subset of society.

TinyDiamond Thu 10-Jan-13 23:57:46

that was meant to be tongue in cheek by the way as the majority of under 25s are children. do you mean18-25s? what is it you mean?

ravenAK Thu 10-Jan-13 23:59:14

Most under 25s have led quite charmed lives. Things were rather nice in the UK until quite recently.

It's not to be expected that they will be politically engaged in the same way as those of us who were teenagers in the 80s, for example...

DrRanj Fri 11-Jan-13 00:00:04

I'm not really agreeing with you claig, merely trying to explain why the young people the op was talking about have Tory values. I am at medical school with a lot of young people and have never met a single one who read the sun of the mail. Talking to A FEW of them, their values can SOMETIMES be quite Tory. But I think this is mainly due to their naivety and possibly their privileged upbringings. I don't think they would necessarily call themselves Tories either.

TinyDiamond Fri 11-Jan-13 00:01:53

under 25s are getting shafted too you know. I think you'd be really surprised if you actually bothered to talk to any. If you can drag them away from reading the fail of course hmm

DrRanj Fri 11-Jan-13 00:02:09

So ftr I DON'T agree with claig. Was merely trying to explain why young people's views can sound quite Tory.

DrRanj Fri 11-Jan-13 00:02:45

So more agreeing with the op really - yes it is annoying.

DSM Fri 11-Jan-13 00:02:52

Don't worry DrRanj. We believe you grin

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