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AIBU?

to be annoyed about headmistress closing school car park?

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Pagetta · 20/11/2018 09:41

My son goes to breakfast/after school club 7.30 until 6. I work full time and husband is based 200 miles away (military) so the extended clubs are an absolute godsend.

The headmistress has asked that parents don't use the teachers carpark (directly in front of the school) for pick-ups drop-offs. However I must admit that if I drop off before 7.45 I do use it because I have the two year old with me and I can leave him in the car while I drop off. It’s not just a time and convenience thing, it’s also that the other option is to park opposite the school over the road, which although not super busy at that time is a fast country road. Crossing it with a toddler and 6 year old is not easy before lollipop lady starts!

At that time there are generally only two cars parked in the car park, and it is very very rare I see another teacher arriving during drop-off. If I get there after 7.45 when teachers start arriving I don't use it so as not to get in their way, and if I don't have toddler with me I don't use it as its unnecessary.
If I’m honest I really don't see the harm.

However the headmistress has obviously got annoyed - whether it’s just with me or with lots of people I'm not sure (there are only 3-4 parents drop off before 7.45) - as this morning when I got there she had closed the gate so you couldn’t pull in.

This has really annoyed me as I understand it’s a teachers car park, but when no teachers are there what's the issue?
Also, there is a Pilates class at 5.45pm in the school hall every night, and they use the car park. So its ok for them to use the car park AFTER teachers go home, but not me and a few others for 5 minutes before they start?

I don't want to be THAT parent that kicks up a stink - maybe I am being precious? I do get that at the end of the day it’s my problem not theirs – rules are rules – but this does seem likes rules for rules sake. Could they not say "its a teacher's car park from 7.45 until 5.30"?
This is mostly just a rant as I know I’ve not really a leg to stand on – but AIBU to be a bit hacked off about this??!

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user187656748 · 20/11/2018 09:42

You're being that parent. You are not a special case. Follow the rules.

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MrsStrowman · 20/11/2018 09:44

YABU they have made it clear the car park is not for parents, that includes you

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Seniorcitizen1 · 20/11/2018 09:46

Another parent who thinks the world revolves around their “needs”

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BookwormMe · 20/11/2018 09:46

It might also be an insurance/health and safety thing - if there's an accident and a child is hurt in the teachers' car park, the school will be liable, when drop off should be a parental responsibility.

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Pagetta · 20/11/2018 09:48

Fair enough - I do see rules are rules.

(No i don't think i'm special or world revolves around my 'needs' - i do see rules are rules - that was what i was asking - i guess i just don't see the issue before teachers start school. not just for me but for anyone .)

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minisoksmakehardwork · 20/11/2018 09:51

Perhaps it's a safeguarding thing which prevents you from leaving a child alone in the car.

Perhaps teachers coming in later are finding parents who drop off for wrap around care are blocking the car park.

Either way, if it's a designated staff car park, the headmistress can prevent access to anyone who isn't staff.

Would you expect to park in it at normal pick up and drop off times so you can leave your 2 year old in the car?

If getting your youngest out of the car at that time is that much of an issue, speak to the head and explain your predicament. They may ask you how you expect everyone else manages. Or they might say it's ok as long as you aren't there after X time.

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ShotsFired · 20/11/2018 09:52

If there is a breakfast club from 7.30am, it stands to reason it must be worthwhile, so I imagine there are a lot more parents than "3-4" dropping off.

It's like with blocking driveways - you are just one person for 2mins, but to the owner, you are the hundredth person this hour/day/week and it's infuriating.

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howabout · 20/11/2018 09:53

YABU. It is not just about leaving the car park free for teachers to use. If you swing in and out of the teachers' car park then you create a hazard twice for all the DC and their families following the rules and approaching on foot. It would never just be you doing it.

Read back your Op and see if any of it makes you special as opposed to THAT parent.

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SendintheArdwolves · 20/11/2018 09:53

I know what you mean about rules for rules sake and on the face of it, the school seems to be a bit petty - but maybe there are ramifications that you aren't aware of?

The most likely explanation is that the teachers can't use their car park because of all the parents dropping off. Yes, you are early, not in anyone's way and just one person, but I bet there are hoardes that turn up ten minutes after you and "just" take two minutes to drop their kids off. So it's easier to just have a rule that says "no parents in the staff car park" than trying to make everyone use common sense and be thoughtful, cos, y'know...thats the rule they've got at the moment and it's not working.

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 20/11/2018 09:55

I think it's fine when it's that early to be honest.

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Pagetta · 20/11/2018 09:56

there is a lollipop lady there from just before 8am which we use if there later.

Genuinely I asked this because i get pretty stressed in mornings so although I think its really not a problem to pull in at that time, I'm aware it may just be because i'm a bit wrapped up in my own stress and wish there was an easier way to commute! I think unanimous decision is get over myself lol!

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CocoCharlie83 · 20/11/2018 09:59

YABU and you are that parent.

You don't know the comings and goings of every parent which uses the car park every day so maybe there have been issues with other parents causing issues. Also there may be H&S issues (such as people leaving there children unattended which they drop pupils off) and/or insurance issues.

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Sirzy · 20/11/2018 10:02

If they let breaslfast club parents use it it becomes very hard to put in a cut off - the parent who normally parks there at 740 but arrives just after your 745 cut offdue to a stressful morning would still want to park where they normally do. And if x can so can I etc.

Much easier to say “no parents to use the car park”

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BottleOfJameson · 20/11/2018 10:03

I actually think YANBU the problem is that while you're considerate and only use it when it's not a problem it's a slippery slope. If people use it before 7:45 then people will start using it at 7:50 and then stopping to have a chat with their friend so they're not back at their car until 8:05 and a teacher's been circling the car park unable to park.

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Bombardier25966 · 20/11/2018 10:03

It might be quiet when you go, but where do they draw the line - five minutes later, ten minutes? Far easier to say no dropping off in car park than to set a time, which just gives (other) parents another reason to moan.

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allhdghd · 20/11/2018 10:03

I don't want to be THAT parent

You already are...

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SuburbanRhonda · 20/11/2018 10:04

I think it's fine when it's that early to be honest.

It’s irrelevant what you think. It’s not allowed.

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IceRebel · 20/11/2018 10:05

Much easier to say “no parents to use the car park”

Agreed. Schools have a lot to deal with. If this is one less thing to take up their time, then a blanket ban on parents is the easiest route to take.

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BettyBoooooo · 20/11/2018 10:05

I work in a school.,The problem is that many so parents take the piss so blanket rules have to be introduced. If you tell parents they can't park after 745, they will park at 750 and then they'd be saying AIBU to think 5 minutes is no big deal and so it goes on. Have you thought that perhaps teachers are also stressed and don't want the risk of running over a small child when they get to school?

At my school hours are spent every week dealing with this kind of thing. That's taxpayers' money meant for children's education.

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 20/11/2018 10:10

Sometimes rules are stupid and petty and it sounds like in this case it's that kind of rule, especially since it puts children's lives at risk re busy road. A more sane rule would be a 10 minute drop-off rule - but too many people who like rules rather than solutions to problems would not countenance that.

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CynthiaRothrock · 20/11/2018 10:10

Yabu. I work in a school and a big part of my job is security and safety(locking gates/manning the car park). I have the same arguments everyday. "We're only 5 mins late/early why can't we go throigh that gate" or "but its only for 5 min i don't see the problem".
Volunteer at the school and see how much of a PITA parents like you are! Park over the road like everyone else and teach you kids road sence from an early age! It is a PRIVATE car park, you have zero rights to be in there at ANY point of the day unless invited!

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Foxyloxy1plus1 · 20/11/2018 10:11

I’m surprised there is space in the car park at 7.45. Most teachers will already have been in their classrooms for a while. If the head has made the decision, them’s the rules.

The Pilates class at 5.45 may well be paying for the spacethey use. I know that some of the classes I go to are held in school halls, for which the school is paid.

I think you’ll have to suck it up.

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AlexanderHamilton · 20/11/2018 10:13

The Pilates class will definately be paying for the space and car parking may form part of that contract.

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Gingerrogered · 20/11/2018 10:16

I have a six year old and two year old twins, even I could cross a road with them, don't know what you're complaining about.

The logical solution would be to bring a lift folding buggy in the boot, put toddler in it and take them with you. Perfectly safe. So it's definitely not a safeguarding issue, it's a too bloody bone idle to walk a short distance to school or deal with a pushchair issue.

Stop being so damn lazy. There will be a lot of other parents in your situation who will cope, whay can't you? Just get up a bit earlier so you have time to deal with the walk and pushchair,.

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Flatwhite101 · 20/11/2018 10:17

When DS started school parents were allowed into the car park for drop-off/pick-up from the wraparound club. Plenty of reminders sent about when this was/wasn't allowed. There was seemingly issues with people pushing these times though, cars/lampposts bumped, close calls, and late arrivals coming onto the site to drop off children when parents (often with younger children) leaving en-masse.

Is now no parents on car park whenever. Is it more inconvenient for me? Yes. Have to find a space on road outside and walk up drive and back, so a good 5 mins or so in the morning when things tight anyway. Can I blame them? No. Many people are too selfish and think the rules don't apply to them as it's "Just this time", or "I'll only be a minute". A blanket ban can be a pain, but I understand why.

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