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AIBU?

MIL.....Grrr! I know IANBU but need allies!

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Gaaahhh · 25/02/2018 16:46

I know I'm not but how much should I stand up to MIL?

DH is a rather spoilt man-child who has very old fashioned views of M/F roles. I knew this when I married him and was OK with me doing the home stuff as he would be busy doing DIY, cars etc. However, over time he has taken up a couple of quite physical, time consuming hobbies, one of which he has grown into a self employed business. He does make some money at it but has had to hugely remortgage - it will eventually be a worthwhile financial investment but in the interim 25 years or so we see far less of him than we would if he did a normal job. I would prefer he worked 9-5 for his previous employer and had less debt. He then spends two nights a week out and most of Sunday on his other hobbies. He does get tired and I accept that, but it came to a head last Sun when he came home at lunchtime (half cut as usual) and then spent the whole afternoon in front of the TV saying 'sunday is a day of rest'.

I said 'great, I wish I knew that - I won't cook from now on then'. He thought I was joking until he came home this lunchtime and found the sunday roast waiting for him to cook with a list of instructions. (well he sort of knew as he and the kids got the veg ready last night, but I think he thought I would cave in). I picked up his elderly MIL who always comes for lunch and she was clearly horrified, but I kept smiling (had a lovely morning doing stuff with DD instead of slaving over the kitchen).

However, she had a face on all through lunch (which was mostly OK as I had left him a detailed list of exactly what to do and when, and had already cooked the meat and done the apple sauce etc) and then started muttering about how her darling boy was so tired and shouldn't have to do this etc etc!! I'm ashamed to say I did get rather cross and did raise my voice somewhat saying that things have moved on from her days and men are expected to pull their weight in the house, and if he's tired he should pick golf instead as a hobby. She had the nerve to argue and say in her day they looked after their men (!), so I pointed out that I am looking after the kids as well as working part time and doing all DH's books, which she never did - but she doesn't get it. Anyway I left the room and heard her muttering that she wouldn't come to lunch any more - and she later left with DH without replying to my cheery goodbye. (DD also told me that she was complaining to DH earlier that I shouldn't have left DS (8) home alone for the ten minutes it took to pick her up. I've done this for a while, during the day, for short trips and he's quite happy). Grrrr!

So - I'm sure I will calm down and be civil again next time we meet, but AIBU?? I know it's all a bit petty but feeding the family is my worst chore! I absolutely hate having to plan meals and drop everything night after night just to feed people, and doing Sunday lunch makes it literally a non-day for me from about 10 a.m. to 3pm or so, week in week out! While DH plays and then relaxes!

Am I within my rights to stand up for myself to MIL, or should I bite my tongue? Also, DD didn't like us arguing so I explained that things were different in MIL's time but she (DD) should never accept a man who didn't help with the chores - which she totally gets. But should I gloss over it and say MIL is lovely full stop, or am I ok to say MIL is lovely but has old fashioned views and you can ignore those when she gets on her high horse? I hate putting people down to other people (except on mumsnet Grin) but equally I do feel I'm justified in having my opinion on this.

BTW, MIL is usually fine, just very old fashioned and can be opinionated.

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HolyMountain · 25/02/2018 16:50

Stand up for yourself , I think you’ve handled it well.

Be assertive, don’t be treated or spoken to badly but remain polite to her.

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Aprilshowerswontbelong · 25/02/2018 16:50

I say well bloody done op!

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GreatDuckCookery6211 · 25/02/2018 16:51

I wouldn't involve the dc tbh but I don't think you were wrong to stand up for yourself.

What's his hobby?

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Plumsofwrath · 25/02/2018 16:53

I think next weekend you could go to the pub for lunch, or have a ploughmans at home.

Sorry, I k ow you’re agitated. But the trouble is with your DH really, not with his mum as such. It sounds like you more or less like her and that you know you don’t need to justify your opinions. You’re probably taking out some of your anger/frustration with DH on her. It’s easier, sometimes. We all do it.

You should get the division of labour sorted out properly with your DH. Once you’ve calmed down, you’ll know how to take it forward re DD/DMIL (basically doing what you’ve said). It’s tough changing habits, but sounds like DH’s habits don’t work for you.

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stitchglitched · 25/02/2018 16:55

YANBU but it should be your DH that you are angry with.

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monkeysox · 25/02/2018 16:55

I stood up for myself today too. I gave dh the choice of sorting dry laundry. Ironing and putting all away or being in charge of all cooking for the day.
I'm finished with the clothes now.
He's been very helpful offering to do other little jobs.
I think I made him realise we need to share the day of "rest"

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DontCallMeCharlotte · 25/02/2018 16:57

Well I fear you may have burnt, or at least scorched your boats with MIL but perhaps your DH might realise you mean business now. When the dust has settled can you and DH have a talk specifically to discuss both your expectations and see where you can both compromise etc.

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TiredMumToTwo · 25/02/2018 16:57

Yes, stand up for yourself & keep the kids out of it.

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duffaho · 25/02/2018 16:59

Defintely not wrong to stand up for yourself!
But for someone who hates making family meals to spend all Sunday making one meal is ridiculous. Whoever said that Sunday meals had to be a big production in this day and age. Nowt wrong with egg and chips on a Sunday. All done and dusted with no pre-prep and timings.And you get your day back with no arguing abut who has the least leisure time.

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 25/02/2018 17:00

Definitely a husband problem rather than an Mil problem but she shouldn't have been so passremarkable

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PotteringAlong · 25/02/2018 17:01

It’s a roast. How can it take 5 hours of your day?!

But no, you shouldn’t have to do it all.

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Moussemoose · 25/02/2018 17:01

If we were living in the 1930's some posters might say you were rude but as we entered a new millennium a few years ago no you were not rude.

How dare she come in to your house and tell you what you should do.

Your DH sounds like a dick though and you do sound like a tiny bit of a doormat.

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Amatree · 25/02/2018 17:04

I really can't understand why your mil is the subject of your anger and not your pathetic and selfish husband Confused How do you find a man like that attractive?

And telling your daughter not to get together with a chauvinistic pillock is all very well, but she's likely to be much more influenced by the example of the relationship she grows up with - a woman putting up with a chauvinistic pillock Hmm

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Amatree · 25/02/2018 17:04

Oh and when you go on strike from cooking you don't cook the meat and leave all instructions!!

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AnnaMagnani · 25/02/2018 17:06

Well you have a DH problem not a MIL problem but MIL clearly is part of the problem given she helped create DH and his views.

Also does she come round every Sunday expecting a big lunch, prepared by you, the wife? Then I would say that bit is a MIL problem too? Why can't sometimes it be made by DH, sometimes you all go out, sometimes she not come, sometimes it be just leftovers etc etc. That part of Sunday has to change or in 20 years you will have gone insane.

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 25/02/2018 17:12

This comes dowb to women who trained their sons to be lazy arses....

They lived at a time where it was usual for women to stay at home and be expected to be the family slave....

What she isn't getting : times have definitely changed...
You work too!
Why should it be your sole responsibility?
Why should her precious son gets to laze aroubd when you presumably get no such 'time off'??

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 25/02/2018 17:28

Oh yeah...

Some useful downloadable tables re recording /negotiating domestic stuff

herestheplanbook.com/dividing-household-responsibilities/

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rothbury · 25/02/2018 17:36

You have a DH problem rather than a MIL problem.

So he packed in his job so he can play around with his very expensive hobby, and as a result you have a huge mortgage? And this hobby business venture might start paying back in 25 years time?

He saw you coming didn't he? Fuck that shit.

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hidinginthenightgarden · 25/02/2018 17:39

5 Hours to cook a sunday lunch? What on earth are you cooking?
You are right to challenge her views but I agree you have a DH problem not a MIL one.

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fia101 · 25/02/2018 17:41

Oh her poor poor boy - I wouldn't have her for lunch again

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ChristmasAddict · 25/02/2018 17:47

I am also intrigued by this five hours for Sunday lunch, appreciate the meat may have to go in early depending on what it is but then you go and do other stuff and the rest only takes less than an hour.

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Sparkletastic · 25/02/2018 17:50

I'd ditch Sunday lunches. Eat in the evening and don't be a slave to roasts. DH can arrange the occasional pub lunch with his mum. He sounds like a bit of a twat, your MIL should keep her opinions to yourself, and carry on raising your DD as a righteous feminist of course!

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Gaaahhh · 25/02/2018 17:51

To be fair to DH (who is the main cause of problem, I agree, but she made him that way Grin) he did make the lunch without a word of complaint. It was only MIL who thought - loudly - that it was terrible that the poor soul should be having to help make a meal!

Pottering - 5 hours might be a maximum but if we do a large joint or a piece of pork then I'm probably starting stuff from around 10, eat at 1, then washing up and clearing up after the meal can take until nearly 3. Obv there are gaps in between but not enough to do anything, so the day's pretty much gone.......

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RhiWrites · 25/02/2018 17:56

The question is when your DH said Sunday was a day of rest what did he mean by it.

Ignore MIL, she’s an annoying distraction. You and your DH are getting on the same page, work on that.

What’s going to happen next weekend? Plan that now. How much work are you going to do. How will it be divided?

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kitchensinkmum · 25/02/2018 18:02

Arrange to go out every other Sunday leaving the children and Sunday lunch and their grandmother home alone. You deserved at least 2 days off a month. Make a packed lunch for yourself and disappear. Husband and mother in law sound entitled

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