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NHS IVF policy change

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Bambamrubblesmum Sat 11-Feb-17 17:58:01

Have you seen this?

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/rip-ivf-nhs-cuts-to-fertility-treatment-will-deny-thousands-parenthood-a6717326.html

I can see both sides of the argument but AIBU to feel very sad that it's come to this sad

Goondoit Sat 11-Feb-17 18:00:11

It is sad. It's also sad it's such a postcode lottery...so so difficult sad

Rogue1234 Sat 11-Feb-17 18:03:50

It is sad. We've spent £14,000 on fertility treatment so far because we're not eligible for funding - a same sex couple with no known fertility problems - and still no baby to show for it sad

mouldycheesefan Sat 11-Feb-17 18:05:47

Postcode lottery is awful. We had no NHS treatment for icsi because our postcode didn't offer it at the time, we went private.
I think a concsistent approach across the country would help couples because it can feel very unfair to people.
It must be very very difficult if you can't afford the treatment that would be heartbreaking.

rainingkitsandpups Sat 11-Feb-17 18:07:36

It's very sad. But watching "the hospital" brings it home that the NHS has a chronic shortfall of funds and it needs to focus on illness and not luxurious extras.

And I KNOW people who need IVF won't see it as a luxury but that's the way of the world. We can't afford to provide everything that everyone wants and the NHS has to prioritise. Cancer treatments are more important than IVF and that's just sad but true.

Bambamrubblesmum Sat 11-Feb-17 18:08:17

That's exactly what I was thinking mouldy to not be able to have the treatment because you simply cannot afford it sad

Snowflakes1122 Sat 11-Feb-17 18:09:19

Whilst I'd hope it meant more money goes towards cancer treatment, I can't help but think the extra money saved from cutting ivf won't be put back into the NHS. So lose lose situation.

Mehfruittea Sat 11-Feb-17 18:10:26

Very sad to read about this. I'm cuddling my DS right now, he wouldn't be here without NHS IVF. To know others won't have this opportunity is heartbreaking tbh.

allegretto Sat 11-Feb-17 18:13:00

It's so unfair. IVF is not a lifestyle choice, it's a medical procedure. And this wouldn't be necessary if the NHS got the money promised by the Leave campaign.

mouldycheesefan Sat 11-Feb-17 18:13:24

Exactly, cutting ivf does not mean more life saving cancer treatments.
The NHS is inefficient in so many ways its bonkers.

Frazzledmum123 Sat 11-Feb-17 18:15:33

I don't see having a child as a luxury at all, I think it is fundamentally necessary to some, if not most people's happiness and mental health is just as important as physical health. I know that won't be a popular train of thought but I know people who cannot afford to pay private but don't qualify for NHS. I can't imagine not having children, it is all I ever wanted and felt like what I was born for (despite being s bit crap at it), I count my lucky stars we were relatively problem free. So sad

Burntbum Sat 11-Feb-17 18:15:52

Fertility treatment hasn't been funded in our area for at least the eight years that we've lived here.

VladmirsPoutine Sat 11-Feb-17 18:16:38

I'd just like to point out that there's a woman currently being treated by the NHS who does not reside here, never paid a single penny towards tax here but yet gave birth to quads - granted she was not a healthcare tourist but it really does go to show. Her weekly costs amounts to the thousands. Yet Joe Bloggs and his wife can't even get a free prescription.

SukeyTakeItOffAgain Sat 11-Feb-17 18:16:49

It was only a matter of time 😞

Everything is being cut to shreds, everything. Nothing is being invested in and being developed. What a sad, narrow country we're becoming.

Coldilox Sat 11-Feb-17 18:20:09

What would you suggest Vladmirs, that she and her babies should have been left to die?

nottinghamgal Sat 11-Feb-17 18:21:49

It is sad very sad but I doubt there are many other countries in the world that offer it free.

PlayOnWurtz Sat 11-Feb-17 18:24:43

I say this as someone with fertility issues but I'm glad. It's expensive and not a medical necessity.

RedAndYellowStripe Sat 11-Feb-17 18:25:50

Healthcare in the uk isn't free. We are all paying for it through our taxes. Like it is in most countries (bar the US where everything has to be private insurance...)

BonnyScotland Sat 11-Feb-17 18:29:44

I also agree with the decision taken by NHS regarding IVF ... I think a great many other procedures should be looked at too ...

Ilikesweetpeas Sat 11-Feb-17 18:29:48

As the parent of a child conceived though NHS IVF I find this so so heartbreaking. I dread to think of the state my mental health would be had I not been able to access this. I was close to breakdown with the stress of infertility. We should address health tourism...

allegretto Sat 11-Feb-17 18:30:00

nottinghamgal - I got it "free" in Italy (where I pay taxes) and I already had a son. It is allowed here whether or not you already have children if it is for a medical reason.

RedAndYellowStripe Sat 11-Feb-17 18:30:22

Fwiw in France you can get 4 IVF treatments under the French healthcare service. It is fully reimbursed.

SemiNormal Sat 11-Feb-17 18:31:10

Very sad. If this was a last resort and other 'treatments' had been knocked on the head first I could understand (IF the money WAS going to go back into the NHS). I know a woman in her 30s who has never worked a day in her life, apparently has a bad back yet was able to go skydiving, clubbing etc, she LOVES clubbing and is always about in skippy clothes, a couple of years back she went to the GP complaining about her small breasts and had a boob job done, only they weren't that small to begin with and they clearly weren't causing her enough distress to not have them flashing about in tiny tops all the time. Same woman recently had veneers done on the NHS. I imagine she's not the only one - in fact my neighbour also had veneers done on the NHS. Get rid of crap like this unless extreme cases first then talk about other treatments!! angry

NataliaOsipova Sat 11-Feb-17 18:32:37

It's a tricky one. But I think we do have to remember that the NHS was never set up to offer cradle to grave provision of all things to all people. There have to be spending priorities.

BakeOffBiscuits Sat 11-Feb-17 18:35:05

This sort of thing is going to keep happening and I do think we need to reasse the whole NHS.

Our population is growing, everyday new medicines are being discovered and we are mostly living longer. So even if this govt put in billions more, in 5 years time it would need more money. I don't know what the answer is, but something needs to change.sad

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