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To Think That Everyone Of Pakistani/South Asian Descent Should Be Outraged At This Racist Daily Mail Story.

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CarolPatell1967 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:14:40

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3162989/The-brave-woman-dares-shatter-toxic-taboo.html

As a Pakistani (with no inbreeding as far as i know) with a disabled child this racism sickens me.

The daily mail have used a brown south asian lady to be racist to her own people.

A google search shows Daily Mail have an obsession with this topic.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392217/Muslim-outrage-professor-Steve-Jones-warns-inbreeding-risks.html

Their are a few more articles all saying the same thing.

Im used to the Daily Mail smearing/hating muslims (particularly Pakistani muslims) but to mention genetics feels a bit Hitlerish.

Don't read DM but family member told me of article.

CarolPatell1967 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:16:03

Btw please click on link, i have seen threads on mumsnet where readers refuse to click on link, but it is necessary to read the article for this thread.

GGabcd Sat 18-Jul-15 19:18:03

Nope. Not clicking the link.

It's not necessary to click the link because if you read the daily mail you get what you deserve.

DadfromUncle Sat 18-Jul-15 19:20:05

How exactly is this racist?

CarolPatell1967 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:20:40

Also i think its very interesting that the writer is an Indian insulting Pakistani's.

Why is this article published at a time of tension between muslim and non muslim communities and attacks against non muslims around the world are still raw in our memory.

Euphemia Sat 18-Jul-15 19:20:58

No, I won't click a Daily Mail link.

CarolPatell1967 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:23:01

Its racist because it is saying that intermarriage is widespread in pakistani communities, which in my opinion it is not.

ChwatFeechers Sat 18-Jul-15 19:23:04

I don't believe it is racist, sorry.

The matter does need addressing.

CarolPatell1967 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:23:33

Please read it its important for disscussion.

GGabcd Sat 18-Jul-15 19:25:08

hmm

Bailey101 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:26:42

Several times the article states that it goes in on in some communities - that's very different to saying all people from Pakistan are inbred. It's also true in some cases, that there are issues with outdated practices within some families in the UK.

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime Sat 18-Jul-15 19:27:16

Are you saying that cousin marriage isn't common within the Pakistani Muslim culture?

Are you denying that breeding within a reduced gene pool (caused by repeated consanguineous marriage) increases the rate of genetic disorders?

Or do you accept those, but object to the tone of the article?

nulgirl Sat 18-Jul-15 19:28:38

Sorry if the story has upset you but not sure what you want to highlight here. I've read the link and although I loathe the slant that the DM takes on stories and find it a sexist little Englander paper, is there anything inaccurate about the story?

I thought it was a fact that the Pakistani community does have a much higher incidence of genetic diseases which is attributable to a high level of cousins marrying. This is not to say that this is the cause in every case but is statistically significant.

TopCivilServant Sat 18-Jul-15 19:29:01

Won't read the daily mail but the Born in Bradford study found that 63% of the Pakistani mothers in the study were married to blood relatives. I think that could be considered pretty widespread

OddBoots Sat 18-Jul-15 19:29:57

I have briefly read the article, I don't like the Daily Mail and I can see why it is sensitive topic but it is important to discuss cousin marriage. I think with what we know now of the science it should be banned but that can't happen with extended discussion so people can understand the facts.

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime Sat 18-Jul-15 19:30:37

Your opinion is wrong, I think, OP.

Please read this BBC article.

WorraLiberty Sat 18-Jul-15 19:30:49

It's not racist at all. It's something the Baroness feels there needs to be discussion on.

By the way, why are you picking on the Daily Mail when so many other papers carried the same story?

Link to Daily Express

Egosumquisum Sat 18-Jul-15 19:33:43

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BerryMood Sat 18-Jul-15 19:34:34

Oh here we go the racist card again.
No, the article is not racist. It highlights a problem withing a particular community, nothing else.

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime Sat 18-Jul-15 19:35:44

It shouldn't be taboo. People need to be discouraged from having children with their relatives as it's genetically unhealthy, particularly when repeated down the generations.

If it was never mentioned for fear of upsetting people or being seen as racist, couldn't you argue that the people within this community were being served poorly by public health policy because of their race/religion?

WorraLiberty Sat 18-Jul-15 19:37:24

Completely off topic but that's an interesting NN you have there OP.

I don't think I've ever seen 'Patel' spelled with a double L before.

Hoppinggreen Sat 18-Jul-15 19:38:33

I used to work with quite a few GP's of Pakistani heritage and they TOLD me that it was a huge issue. I also personally know a lady from Pakistan who's parents were cousins and who married her own cousin. Her 3 children are disabled and the lady herself told me she believed it was a result of too much intermarrying within families.
So in this case I actually do believe the mail.

SquareStarfish Sat 18-Jul-15 19:39:18

One of my good friend's parents are from Pakistan. They are first cousins. 2 of their 3 offspring (including my friend) are disabled. Their condition is considerably more likely because their parents are cousins. How exactly is the article highlighting these figures racist?

ChwatFeechers Sat 18-Jul-15 19:40:08

Hmmmm, Worra most interesting!

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime Sat 18-Jul-15 19:42:21

I thought that too Worra but Google has thrown up a number of Pakistani people called Patell.

Not sure about Carol though grin

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