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AIBU?

To be irked at Chairman's question?

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Blankiefan · 17/12/2014 21:57

I was making polite chat today in the Christmas Lunch queue with the chairman of our company. Have never met him before and he doesn't know me. I'm a senior manager but not senior enough to be on his radar.

Chatting about Xmas and I mentioned having had a baby last year so had to be organised this year. Later in the chat he asked "so, where's the baby whilst you're at work?".

Clearly he wouldn't ask a bloke that. I'm irked - nothing more; but definitely irked... AIBU?

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DoubleValiumLattePlease · 17/12/2014 21:59

I'd have about a zillion things on my 'annoyed about' list before I got to this.

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Whooshtheyweregone · 17/12/2014 21:59

YABU - he was making conversation and may well have asked a man the same question.

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WorraLiberty · 17/12/2014 22:01

I'm quite sure he didn't actually care and was just making polite conversation.

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Hassled · 17/12/2014 22:03

I don't think there's a cat's chance in hell that he would have asked you that question had you been a man. I'm irked on your behalf.

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DoubleValiumLattePlease · 17/12/2014 22:04

Not as though he asked you to fetch him a sausage roll and a cup of tea whilst patting your bottom was it Grin

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AlpacaYourThings · 17/12/2014 22:05

Sounds like polite chit chat to me.

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whooshbangprettycolours · 17/12/2014 22:05

I get what you mean. To a man he may have asked, does your wife work, because like it or not woman at home/part time is the norm.

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SamCroClaus · 17/12/2014 22:06

blimey poor man he can't even ask after a baby

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 17/12/2014 22:06

I'm sure he was just checking you hadn't left it in the filing cabinet while you popped out for lunch.

Or maybe, he was trying to make small talk with someone he didn't know very well. Or maybe he was very interested in having a childminder vs nusery debate?

If he'd asked "what does your husband think about you going back to work?" or said "you're not planning another one are you?!" I'd be standing next to you on the rampart.

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 17/12/2014 22:07

So... where is the baby whilst you're at work? Wink

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skylark2 · 17/12/2014 22:07

I think it's just polite conversation - and one I've seen men having too, if a preschooler comes up in the discussion. I mean, I'm not the chairman of the company or anything, but I've absolutely discussed choosing nurseries and childminders with male colleagues. (My only female+mother colleague's kids are looked after by her DH, so as it happens I've only talked about choosing childcare with men!)

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Blankiefan · 17/12/2014 22:13

Grin Grin Grin. DH also suggested I may have left her in my desk drawer.

He's older and v posh so his childcare debate perhaps would've stretched to "is your nanny live in or live out"?

It was definitely (slightly awkward) polite chit chat. It's by no means the most sexist comment ever made (especially in our business) but in maintaining my irk.... I'll accept I may be being a bit unreasonable Smile

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MidniteScribbler · 17/12/2014 22:13

It's called 'small talk'. He didn't know you, didn't know anything about you, you told him that you had a baby, and he then discussed the only thing he knows about you.

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Primafacie · 17/12/2014 22:14

I'm with you OP, that is completely inappropriate and sexist. I am in management and I would definitely pull someone over that type of comment. In fact, I have done so today! Ignore those who say it's just normal chit chat/polite conversation - so was pinching bottoms a few years ago. You know it's wrong, I hope you find the right way to channel that message within your workplace.

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LuckyLopez · 17/12/2014 22:16

Well you raised the baby issue. I can't imagine my DH saying 'i have a young baby so need to be organised this year'. He was just following on from that surely...

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Icimoi · 17/12/2014 22:17

Does anyone think it occurred to the Chairman for one moment that, say, the baby's father could be looking after him?

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Hassled · 17/12/2014 22:18

The more I think about this the more irked I feel. I get that it was polite Christmas chitchat, but it would not have been the polite chitchat he'd have engaged in had you been male. There's no way he'd have asked a man about childcare arrangements.

I want to say I've asked my DH and he agrees (I have and he does) but that's slightly undermining my irkedness, isn't it :o?

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lessonsintightropes · 17/12/2014 22:18

I think YABU a bit. Our Chairman is in his 70s and to all intents and purposes a bit unreconstructed - but told me the day he stepped down that I was the one of our senior team he pegged for next CEO. Neither of the other two people who would be considered for that role are women of a childbearing age. I think he was just making chit chat.

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iamusuallybeingunreasonable · 17/12/2014 22:20

Why would that irk someone?! He was being polite... Some people worry too much

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Primafacie · 17/12/2014 22:21

Really Lucky? Your DH would never mention that? Why is that?

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Primafacie · 17/12/2014 22:24

To those who don't find it irksome, can I ask - genuinely - are you in a management position?

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AgentProvocateur · 17/12/2014 22:25

You brought it up - fair game for small talk after you've raised the subject.

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lessonsintightropes · 17/12/2014 22:29

Primafacie Director level role.

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HandMini · 17/12/2014 22:29

I had the same opening conversation with our Chairman a few weeks back.

I told him a few things about how my childcare worked. He seemed interested. He asked questions. He told me about his (admittedly quite different) experiences when he had young children. It was a nice chat.

How is this not a good conversation to have? He gets a bit of insight into a different generation's childcare experience / his employees' childcare experience.

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AlpacaYourThings · 17/12/2014 22:30

Yes, I am Prima

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